I would recommend the Honda service manual.

 

I can email you the info you need if you private message me your address

 

Shot in the dark that you are still active here. I would like that pdf as well. How does someone "Private Message" another? Thanks

 

Thanks, RebelRider,
Is it too long to post here?

 

Yes, it's too long. It will be in a pdf file.

 

Could you e-mail this to me also? rneese@tds.net

 

That's exactly what I needed! Thanks again, rebelrider86.

 

Anytime scepellos, glad I could help

 

I saw the replacement caps and rollers on ebay for less than $13 dollars, I don't know it that included the three springs.

 

How would one Know that the starter clutch needs replacing??

 

If the starter spins but the engine doesn't.

 

lol.. thanx

suppose I should have figured that

 

how would one know that the starter clutch needs to be replaced?
more specifically than startup difficulty, or no startup.

 

Seriously, The starter will start to slip.
If the starter spins but the engine doesn't.
It starts with a slip every once in a while, particularly in colder weather.
Usually starter clutches don't fail catastrophically. They tend to slowly degrade, gradually getting worse until they don't catch more than they do.

 

ok so this is more what I was arguing about in my head... going back and forth... which parts would wear first n' such... thanx...

I think I'll start a new thread on my issues... before I steal this thread...

 

Keep in mind the starter clutch is not part of the starter motor like in an automobile.
The starter motor drives a sprocket which drives a chain. The driven sprocket is behind the flywheel and is attached to the starter clutch.

 

I would suggest putting your bike info in your signature.
The 250 starter clutch is very easy to get to and rebuild. It is on the left side outside of the crankcase and quite robust, not a known weak point.

The 450 on the other hand has in internally in the crankcase and requires splitting the crankcase to access the starter clutch.
The symptoms are the same, a slow degradation.

 

This thread is a little old but it touches on exactly my problem. So hold on to your butts. I could use some input.

I brought my 86 cmx250 to a shop to get the carb cleaned because the screws holding the carburetor together are apparently made of aluminium so my philips head destroyed them, requiring help from a professional. Once they got it back together, the guy said it runs great...when you push start it. So they say the starter clutch needs to be replaced. I find this believable as when I hit the starter before i brought it in it would make this horrible screaming, metal grinding kind of sound.

Here is the kicker, they have had this bike for 2 MONTHS!!!

I won't go into the detail but it has been an uphill battle to get to this point and they are in the process now of searching for the appropriate part. (I think this is week 4 of their search)

From what I'm reading this looks like something I could manage with a strap wrench and a few other tools. I am just unfamiliar with the exact parts that need to be replaced. That pdf manual sounds like it might be my key to getting my bike back if Rebelrider86 would be so kind.

 

From what I'm reading this looks like something I could manage with a strap wrench and a few other tools.

You probably can. I tore my bike and engine down to every last screw and spring, and rebuilt it. In one day, on a few concrete paver tiles in my front yard. No manual. The schematic provided by this forum was helpful.

Don't be afraid to jump into this bike. It's simple and hard to screw up. Once you do it you realize "Hell, all that apprehension over nothing! That was way easier than I thought!" Psyching yourself out is the biggest hurdle. You gotta be a real special kind of stupid to wind up in any serious trouble.

 

And what year and model is your bike? Putting that info in your signature will make it available for all to know.

 

1986 Honda Rebel 250

 

Rebuilding the starter clutch isn't that difficult. I may be in your area in a week or two if you need a hand, or possibly another member may be close.

 

Thanks flitecontrol! I would take you up on that if you happen by. Getting the bike out of their shop is the first step. Does anyone have a link to part/parts that would be needed? These mechanics are under the impression that the parts were discontinued and are hard to find...

 

Yes.
The parts are still available. They are still used on the new Rebels.

 

Perfect. This has been a great help. It was hard to shop for parts when I had no idea what they looked like. Above and beyond, thank you.

 

The only things you really need to buy are the springs (if you're on a budget).

Have a look at my previous post an see for yourself. Once cleaned the rollers look like new (on a 25K miles bike).

http://www.hondarebelforum.com/f18/cm250c-1983-a-5989-4.html#post59265

 

Hi! I was wondering if anyone who has done the starterclutch job would be able to tell me how much side-to-side play is normal for the large starter sprocket located behind the starter clutch . thanks, paco

 

No play at all...

 

Well I don't like the sound of that. I've got about a quarter inch of play between the starter clutch and the crankcase, with the flywheel aligned and torqued. UUUGGH!!! Looks like I'm back to square one.

 

I just double checked to make sure I'm not saying anything wrong and there is absolutely no play at all. Maybe you put it backward?