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Honda Rebel 250 - Carb Removal - Classic - `85 -`87

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This stuff needs little yellow arrows so folks like me, with no experience know which ones are being removed.
 
Before you start, follow the instruction in the link below to remove the seats and then the gas tank.

Next you will need to loosen the 10mm nuts on the idle and the throttle cables. See below.

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Next remove the idle and throttle cable from the cable guide. See below.

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This seems to be the only step I can't quite figure out. It might be a dumb question, but where are the 10mm nuts on the idle and the throttle cables? I just don't wanna screw it up. And, in advance, I don't know the actual terms for the parts, just remember that everyone started somewhere.

Following the wire cables that surround the rounded part, it looks like somewhere between where the wires ends and the rubber tubes begin. I'm thinking it's the first nuts you'll encounter along that path. Will loosing those expose all that threading (or the screw-looking parts without a head in case that's wrong) shown in the second picture?
 
so loosing those bottom two nuts will allow the threaded portion to slide more out of the rubber tubs and all that noise above 'em, which gives you the slack you need to pop the ends outta the, cable guide, or the rounded part, right?

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Now I'm a "cool newbie"
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ah, okay, that's all I needed. God I love this site. It's more helpful than the entire rest of the Internet.

Maybe some day we could add those red circle to the already posted pictures to make it easier for everyone to see. Most of the time you can spot the parts, but it wouldn't hurt.

One last, slightly off topic question; I'm gonna remove the carburetor because I've encountered the notorious problem Honda rebels have; a gunked up carburetor. I'm gonna soak all the metal parts in the stuff folks recommended (don't remember the name right now) Judging from the strong cautionary warnings everyone gave me saying only soak up the metal parts, not the rubber parts, it sounds like pretty strong stuff. I'm guessing that the rubber parts aren't hard to clean; tooth brush and if necessary dish soap soaking will do the job I think. What should I put the liquid that'll clean the metal up in? Will a plastic tub do it? Or will it eat through that? Perhaps the sink?...
 
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One more thing before I go to bed and try this myself. I remember reading somewhere that the directions are the same for the newer generation bikes (mines a 2002) except there's one extra thing. Now for the life of me I can't seem to find this again. Know the post I'm talking about or know the difference yourself?
 
Next loosen the phillips screw on the hose clamps on the front and rear of the carb. See below.

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mojorisn said:
You need to remove the bracket that the side covers bolt to and the carb bolts to the manifold with 2 nuts instead of it being attached by a hose clamp like the 85-87 Rebels.
So, at this step, the screws described are not on the hose clamp but on the manifold(?) and each have a nut and a bracket,(?) right?

Where is the manifold? Right near the Carburetor or in between the hose clamps and the carburetor? Perhaps a part of the carburetor? And I'm sure I could figure out which parts are brackets.

But the brackets have to be removed first, right? From the way their described, it seems like they'd be covering the screws and nuts.

So locate and remove the brackets on the manifold, --> remove nuts --> screws are now accessible and removable. Nothing more, right? Doesn't the Air filter come into play somewhere along the way?

And thank you for your help. I don't know if this seems a little tedious to you, but I appreciate it more than you know.
 
Hay, sorry guys I haven't been back in a while. I got busy, forgot about things, remembering them from time to time, borrowed a tool from a friend at work (which took two weeks for the guy to remember to bring it to work) and tried and failed because I didn't have a tool to get the idle cables off, forgot again, kept forgetting to ask to borrow the tool at an earlier time than 10:00pm and all kinds of things like that.

Today though I got to work on it again and got as far as removing the nuts from the screws on the manifold. I got one off but couldn't get the other. The bracket that holds the idle / throttle cables blocked the other nut that I need to get off as you can see here;

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the part I'm pointing at is the bracket for anyone like me who doesn't know much. I went to remove the screws that hold it to the carburetor and only succeeded in starting to strip them. I can't get to the nut, also visible in the picture just behind the bracket and above and to the right of the rounded part. (again that's for those like me) But you can kinda see the slightly stripped screws, the cheap pieces of junk. I think I ought to replace them with good ones when I'm done. But any ideas on how to proceed?
 
another wall...

Well I bought me an impact screwdriver and used it. It worked on the first screw but only finished stripping the other screw as seen here;
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aalthough you can't tell; the top screw is loosened for me but the other one is still as stuck as before and more stripped. what should I do now? I'm gguessing that I should take it to a mechanic to use their big fancy tool that is useful for removing stripped screws, right?
 
I Talked to a friend and got his help to remove the screw. he just took a chisle and chipped enough off the side of the screw to remove with a screwdriver. now I'm back at it and gonna see how it goes.

As for the bracket debate; I don't need to remove it to loosen the cabels. I had already done that before getting to it. I need to remove it so I could get to the nut behind the bracket. I couldn't reach it with the rachet.
 
The manifold is number 6. The 2 nuts that have to be removed to get the carb off are the 2 that go through the number 5 gasket.

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So, I've followed all the steps to get the carburetor removed. While it wiggles I can't get it out. The two nuts (parts 14) that attach the manifold to the carburetor screw onto parts 7. Those screw-like parts are holding the carburetor onto the bike. I can push the carburetor back a little but not enough to get the screws through the holes on the carburetor so remove it. What should I do?
 
So I removed the air filter and tried to pust the giant hose that connects the carb to the air box. but the hose still doesn't have anymore give than it had before. Am I suppose to just force it?
 
What I did was after removing the air filter I put my hand in the chamber and squeezed the hose until I could get my fingers around the hose while keeping my hands in the chamber box. I could get the lip to get inside the chamber but couldn't force it anymore. Now I gotta get ready for work but I'll try to finish the job tormorrow.
 
*sighs* I'm tired of this. I took it apart again and got to the same point that I got stuck yesterday. I was trying to push the rubber boot back into the chamber but couldn't quite get it there. The bracket that the side covers is perventing me from pushing the carburator which also pushed the rubber boot towards the chamber. I was pushing the carburator becasue I don't have any angles with which I can use to put a good amount of pressure on the rubber boot to push it.

The bracket that the side covers bolt to has two nuts on the right side. one on top and one on bottom. I can get to the top one but haven't because I also need to get to the bottom one which is blocked by a bunch of stuff attached to the right of the batterty. how can I get to that bolt?

Also I noticed something intresting; There's a rubber hose that connects to the bottom of my tank. I followed the hose because I was curious. It just leads to the ground. What's the point in this? Is it just ment to leak gas while you're riding? This is one of two hoses that lead to nowhere.

The other is a little more complicated; It wraps around the Carburartor and leads to the ground. tracing it back it connects to one hose that forks off twice and all connect to the carburator. the starting point is a closed off end of hose at the bottom of the motorcycle.

What's the point in both of these? and also how do I get that second nut off?