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First chain replacement, need input

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#1 ·
Hey guys, after a recent crash/debacle it's been brought to my attention that I need to replace my chain. I called a local Honda dealer and they said for 230 parts + 70 labor, they would replace both chain and sprockets, or for 130 parts + 15 labor they would replace the chain. The dealer said most likely I don't need new sprockets, and he would check them out for me.

The rule of thumb when working on my mustang was that it was almost always cheaper, and usually better to look to the aftermarket for replacement parts. I have been seriously considering a 15T sprocket swap and was wondering if this would affect what type of chain I need to purchase.

I've seen 420 and 520 chains, and 140-142 links, what size/kind do I need, and are OEM chains not a good idea, since I've read they don't have a "Master Link" which I assume is a link that you can reattach if you decide to clip off a couple links to shorten the chain?

Also, if you can continually shorten your chain to reduce slack, how do you know when you need replace the chain?

Oh, and we have 14/33 sprockets stock right?

Thanks guys.
 
#3 ·
If you have OEM sprockets (14/33) replacement chain is 520 x 108. replacement chains come with master link.
 
#5 · (Edited)
And unless you change sprockets there is no need to ever add or cut links from a chain after it is installed. If it elongates to the point that taking a link out is necessary, it is worn beyond its service life and needs to be replaced.
Roller chain does not "stretch".The pins wear down making the center to center distance of a link (chain pitch ) just a little longer than it should be because of the worn pins. Once the chain pitch is significantly longer than it should be, sprockets are quickly worn out
 
#7 ·
Thanks! I went into the Honda Dealer today, and he jokingly told me he wouldn't service my bike because he doesn't think anyone should have to deal with rivet chains lol. So he advised me to check my sprockets and as long as everything is swell, just to grab a new "clip-on" (I think that's what he said) 520/108 chain and be on my way.
 
#8 ·
Your Rebel has a continuous chain meaning no master link and to replace it with the same chain you have to remove the swing arm to install it which is quite a bit of work just to replace a chain. Replace it with a chain that has a master link and it doesn't take long but you'll have to either use a chain breaking tool or grind the rivets off to remove your old chain.
 
#12 ·
This is cheap obviously, but for the price I can replace it 5 times for the price of an OEM one. This will fit right?

BikeMaster 520 Standard Chain - BikeBandit.com
It is cheap, it's a non-o-ring chain. I had one on my bike just like it, same brand and it would stretch easily and needed adjusted weekly. I only put about 3k miles on it before I bought a better one. I wouldn't recommend buying it.
 
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#13 ·
In my experience, stay with the OEM chain from Honda. I got 18K miles out of the original. When I replaced it with a non-OEM, I only got 6K and I had to adjust it about every week or two. In the long run it was cheaper to stay with OEM.
 
#14 ·
The chain I have now I've put almost 3k miles on it and have only had to adjust it once. I lube it about every 500 miles. I think it's a really good chain, but it is heftier than the stock chain, it's wider and thicker.
 
#15 ·
Oh well, went with this one"

Parts Unlimited 520 Standard Motorcycle Chain - BikeBandit.com

I'm well aware it will need to be replace in 3k miles, but since my sprockets are looking pretty damn pointy anyways, I thought it be foolish to throw an expensive chain just to wear it out. I'll do a full sprocket/chain swap later in the summer, but I'm leaving for a college program and just need something to tie me over for a month, maybe two. Thanks for all the input guys, I'll definitely get something more worthwhile when this one dies.
 
#16 ·
Ok I need to limp my bike to campus, so I went ahead and dremeled out two links, and went and bought a clip on master link to connect them. I am at the point where all I need to do is put the link together, but it seems to require a good deal of compression to put it together. Is this the point where I need that special chain tool? And how much do they usually cost? My buddy just said to use a vice grips, but I feel like that could put too much pressure on one point and cause damage.
 
#17 ·
If you can loosen the rear wheel and adjust it forward, it'll give you some much needed slack to work on the chain. I'm sure they make a tool to install the linking plate, but I just used some large channel-lock pliers to work it on from side to side. Not the best option, but it'll do in a pinch. You could also use a c-clamp with a small block of wood against the link, and press it on, then the wood would compress where the pins go through, and press the link plate home.
 
#22 ·
Thanks guys, I installed it today, there was a satisfying "pop" when I used the channel lock to pop the link on, and the retaining clip slid easily and snugly into the slots. As I said before, this chain only needs to tie me over until my new chain gets here, but it was a great 1st experience using this clip system.
 
#24 ·
Will a new Honda OEM chain come as a solid "loop" and require the swingarm to be unbolted, or does it too have a "master link"? :confused:
 
#26 ·
Are you aware of any detrimental effects of using a master link? Sure seems like routine maintenance items like chain cleaning would be much easier if the chain could just be removed, cleaned, and re-installed (OK, I'm anal about routine maintenance,:lol2:). :confused:
 
#27 ·
If you remove a master link you really "should" replace the clip each time. While I have reused the clip before I always have second thoughts about it and go back and put on a new one.
 
#30 · (Edited)
Not to be a thread derailed, but I haven't dealt with chains in a LONG time since all my bikes have had belts for years.

Does anyone here have any experience with Regina chains? I replaced the chain and sprockets on my wife's rebel with a 520ZRT/108 Regina chain and sprocket set hoping it would be a decent chain with a long life.

It is supposed to have a 9200+ tensile strength rating... But I have no idea what a Z-ring chain is compared to an o-ring chain...