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07-15-2019 02:57 AM
SoakedKarma I assumed you have wiring diagram
The only copy I have is located as a PDF on google drive, can be downloaded..
look for 86_CMX450c_Wiring.pdf
https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...VdJSTFPNlc3UmM
07-15-2019 02:42 AM
SoakedKarma Yellow/Red appears to be starter relay (engine starter switch) on my schematic..
if it terminates at small starter relay terminal? Yes that would be C terminal.. momentary on

This image is the cmx250 starting layout simplified
07-15-2019 02:20 AM
SoakedKarma
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Originally Posted by flitecontrol View Post
I didn't think the Rebel had an alternator, but I'm no electrician.
On the 1st gen CMX250 nine of the stator windings act as 3 phase AC alternator.. three stator windings per phase.. rectified to 12vdc by voltage regulator..
The other two stator windings of 1st gen provide AC charge of CDI..

the CM250 and CMX250 utilize wye alternator winding configuration
The Delta configuration has the three phases connected like a triangle, whereas the Wye (or star) configuration has all three loads connected at a single neutral point.
07-15-2019 02:15 AM
artist.skywarp
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Originally Posted by SoakedKarma View Post
Nope,,, Don't look right to me... you should need only connect 4 wires..

C terminal (momentary switched power) should only be connected if you are defeating handle bar starter push button.. That I should think would by your Yellow/Red tracer, not positive as it shouldn't have a fuse connection..

A terminal (Switched Power) should supply power to fuse block with switch ON as in image..

My wire schematic is rather indistinct as to wire and tracer colors

the following connections appear correct..
M= green
B=thick red from the starter solenoid
M=black/White tracer to CDI
I got this one because it has the third twist to crank over like a car style ignition that returns once released, to replace using the start button.
I don't want any of the stock switches they're all roached.

So my yellow and red should go to "C" terminal.?
Terminal "A" should be the black and red ?
07-15-2019 01:44 AM
SoakedKarma Nope,,, Don't look right to me... you should need only connect 4 wires..

C terminal (momentary switched power) should only be connected if you are defeating handle bar starter push button.. That I should think would by your Yellow/Red tracer, not positive as it shouldn't have a fuse connection..

A terminal (Switched Power) should supply power to fuse block with switch ON as in image..

My wire schematic is rather indistinct as to wire and tracer colors

the following connections appear correct..
M= green
B=thick red from the starter solenoid
M=black/White tracer to CDI
07-14-2019 10:39 PM
artist.skywarp
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Originally Posted by SoakedKarma View Post
That switch very well may work.. looks good to me..
yes the Rebel has both an Alternator and high 100+ volt generator/magneto windings that charge the CDI all contained on same stator..

You will be grounding the CDI rather than a magneto in your application though..
should be a rather painless 4 wire hookup unless you relocate switch mounting location..
I am going to relocate it I was just checking when I saw your reply thanks for your help !
I've got everything wired here's a picture I kept the color codes accurate to the original harness so do you think it will work from what you see in this picture.

C=red/black tracer from fuse block after fuse
S=yellow/red tracer from fuse block after fuse
M= green
B=thick red from the starter solenoid
M=black/White tracer to CDI
07-14-2019 04:42 PM
flitecontrol I didn't think the Rebel had an alternator, but I'm no electrician.
07-14-2019 04:12 PM
SoakedKarma That switch very well may work.. looks good to me..
yes the Rebel has both an Alternator and high 100+ volt generator/magneto windings that charge the CDI all contained on same stator..

You will be grounding the CDI rather than a magneto in your application though..
should be a rather painless 4 wire hookup unless you relocate switch mounting location..
07-14-2019 03:28 AM
artist.skywarp
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Originally Posted by artist.skywarp View Post
This diagram is what i needed !!!
the diagram i found has the on and off positions swapped compared to your diagram !- blew my 20a fuse

So I just ordered this keyed switch/momentary starter ignition to kill 2 birds with one stone.

https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/weath...ass-bezel.html

any thing you see with that ignition that i should be aware of and how do i wire it ??
While I think this rotary switch could work, they don't indicate what the internal connections are..

An important function of the ignition switch is the grounding of CDI when in Off position.. Can't tell if additional terminals of your switch choice can provide this function from the diagram they provide..
Will this work ? And do you know if the stator is the same as a magneto?
07-10-2019 12:03 PM
SoakedKarma I would look into installing a 2nd generation 250 switch if the mount holes align..

by eliminating Parking lamp option and jumper of tail light circuit 2nd gen provides all the functions you would need..
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