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08-11-2019 01:03 PM
Lexiyntax
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Originally Posted by Shadow Shack View Post
...by the time it was actually a reliable design they changed the design to the current 1700 guise in circulation today.
Indeed, I own one of those 1700's and it really is a rock solid design with a wonderful power band and feel. Unfortunately they only make the Voyager and Vaquero versions now and no longer the Nomad.
08-05-2019 09:31 PM
Shadow Shack
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Originally Posted by Bokobob View Post
Kawasaki Nomad
The problem with the Nomad --- and the entire 1500-1600 line for that matter --- was the fact that Kawasaki knew it was plagued with design flaws and took nearly two full decades to finally get around to ironing them out. And by design flaws I'm talking far beyond the 80s-90s "single use fasteners" made of the softest metals they could find that plagued ALL Kawasakis during that era...by the time it was actually a reliable design they changed the design to the current 1700 guise in circulation today.
08-05-2019 09:18 PM
flitecontrol I mentioned it simply because many folks don't think a shaft needs to be lubricated. An hour or so every 10,000 miles beats cleaning and lubricating a chain every 500 miles IMO. That's one reason I got the 750. Oh, and the fact I got it for $1,000.

Tubeless rims - see here: https://www.hondarebelforum.com/f78/...ms-116978.html
08-05-2019 07:37 PM
VAReb
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Originally Posted by flitecontrol View Post
Shaft drives need to be lubricated with high moly content grease every 10,000 miles or so.
True, but that doesn't bother me any. I don't see where that is more labor intensive than cleaning and lubing a chain on a regular basis.

Thanks for the explanation on the RideOn - - I totally forgot about the tubes! Now I'm curious how you upgraded your rims/tires to tubeless? Is that a standard upgrade many Rebel owners make? Or did you have to get creative to make it work?
08-05-2019 07:33 PM
VAReb
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Originally Posted by craftyrafter View Post
Check out Kawasaki Vulcan S and Indian Scout/Scout Sixty. Both come with ABS, though I think the Vulcan S is chain drive. The Scout gets 100 hp and is all manner of great and great looking. I think the Honda NC700 line also has ABS models and is cruiser/sport style. Unfortunately not many Japanese cruisers have ABS, not even the newer ones like the Yamaha Bolt. Harley also has some ABS options, but doesn't tick almost any of your other requirements: air cooled, belt drive, heavy. Your other option is to look at European brands which since something like 2012 required ABS on all their bikes. Moto Guzzi, Triumph, BMW all have cruiser-style bikes, though BMW doesn't really have a classic American style one. Moto Guzzi V7 and California are close to American style if you can get past the transverse engine. Triumphs are parallel twins mostly, just like the Rebel, but are excellent bikes and cool to boot.
Yeah, there are plenty of bikes out there that check many but not all my boxes. For now, though, I am looking to compile a list of bikes that check ALL the boxes. There are just too many different bikes out there. By maintaining hard requirements it is easier to filter out and narrow the list.

My inseam is even shorter than the OP's (28"), so I expect most models that fit the low seat height requirement will be cruisers.

I just started riding and have no plans to buy another bike any time soon. And I may never buy another bike if I decide the Rebel is all the bike I want/need, or I'm just not that into it after a while. So at this point it's primarily a mental exercise, for long-range planning/research.
08-05-2019 06:16 PM
flitecontrol Shaft drives need to be lubricated with high moly content grease every 10,000 miles or so.
08-05-2019 06:13 PM
flitecontrol
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Originally Posted by VAReb View Post
Would you recommend the RideOn tire sealant for our 250 Rebels as well? Thanks.


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Ride on will plug cylindrical holes of 1/4" or less, which is ideal for tubeless tires. Sometimes tube punctures tear the tube rather than make a neat hole. For that reason, RideOn is less effective in plugging punctures in tubes. But it will balance both tube and tubeless tires equally well. The back tire on my Rebel is on a tubeless rim, and I have it in there. Haven't gotten around to putting the tubeless rim up front. But the two punctures I've had have both been in the rear tires.
08-05-2019 05:49 PM
craftyrafter
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Originally Posted by VAReb View Post
When and if I do go larger, my short list of requirements is:

1) 650-850cc
2) <600 lbs
3) Fuel Injected
4) Liquid-cooled
5) Shaft-drive
6) ABS
7A) Low seat height (cruiser style)
7B) Standard passenger seat

Although I don't especially like the fenders, the current Honda Shadow Aero ABS model checks all the boxes. There must be others out there too.

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Check out Kawasaki Vulcan S and Indian Scout/Scout Sixty. Both come with ABS, though I think the Vulcan S is chain drive. The Scout gets 100 hp and is all manner of great and great looking. I think the Honda NC700 line also has ABS models and is cruiser/sport style. Unfortunately not many Japanese cruisers have ABS, not even the newer ones like the Yamaha Bolt. Harley also has some ABS options, but doesn't tick almost any of your other requirements: air cooled, belt drive, heavy. Your other option is to look at European brands which since something like 2012 required ABS on all their bikes. Moto Guzzi, Triumph, BMW all have cruiser-style bikes, though BMW doesn't really have a classic American style one. Moto Guzzi V7 and California are close to American style if you can get past the transverse engine. Triumphs are parallel twins mostly, just like the Rebel, but are excellent bikes and cool to boot.
08-05-2019 05:45 PM
motovagabond
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Originally Posted by VAReb View Post
Congrats! That is quite a bump up from a 250 Rebel!

I'm a new rider and very happy with the practice I'm getting on the Rebel. If I ever get to a point where I want more bike, I hope I'll be in a position to keep this Rebel - - it is a lot of fun and pretty much ideal for the close-in urban/suburban area where I live.

When and if I do go larger, my short list of requirements is:

1) 650-850cc
2) <600 lbs
3) Fuel Injected
4) Liquid-cooled
5) Shaft-drive
6) ABS
7) Low seat height (cruiser style)
Standard passenger seat

Although I don't especially like the fenders, the current Honda Shadow Aero ABS model checks all the boxes. There must be others out there too.
Yes it is a big bump up from a Rebel 250. The Vulcan checks off some of those boxes, dry weight is 595 lbs. under 600, but that dry, fill it up and its close to 650 lbs, fuel injected, this was a big selling point for me for this bike, liquid cooled, it's 95+ degrees in south Florida for months, liquid seems like a better idea than air, low seat height 26.8 inches, this was a must for me, my inseam is around 29 inches.

Other selling points, belt drive, not as maintenance free as shaft drive, but better than chain, availability of parts and accessories, they have been making the Vulcan for a long time, should be easy to find accessories for it, size, 900 was the largest I said I wanted in a new bike. Fuel capacity 5.3 gallons, even at 40 mpg it should still get over 200 miles to a tank.

And I even like the color!
08-05-2019 05:41 PM
Mage When I upgraded last month I went with a 1986 Kawasaki 454 LTD .I really miss my rebel , I wish I could have have kept her as well
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