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12-15-2019 09:25 AM
flitecontrol I think the class is the very best way to learn the fundamentals of riding. Professionally trained riders have fewer accidents.

Several members here, who were long time riders when they took the course, also say they learned a lot! I can usually tell if a rider has training just by watching what they do when stopping at an intersection.
12-15-2019 01:52 AM
Lazarus Long Flitecontrol: at one time, I moved from another state back to Ohio and the DMV did not put my MC endorsement on my drivers license. If you don't catch it right then and have them fix it, you are S.O.L. I didn't notice for days and was S.O.L.
I was between bikes but felt conspicuous without my endorsement, so I took the MSF class and was stunned at how much I learned, having already ridden for over 20 years!
So much so, that I try to talk everyone I know into that class the first time I hear "motorcycle" out of their mouth.
12-12-2019 06:24 PM
7milesout Welcome Lazarus Long - If I were in your shoes (considering buying 2), I think I might chance buying a Rebel 250 and a Virago or VStar (whatever they call it these days) 250 late model for both.

Heck, I'm tempted to go buy a VStar 250 myself and add it to the fleet. What stops me is that I'm scared I might like it more than the Rebel. I really love the Rebel. And I've had all manner of motorcycle, and even roadraced in WERA in a previous century.

Look forward to hearing what you do.

12-11-2019 11:10 PM
flitecontrol With proper maintenance and care, the likelihood of ever needing to get inside a cm/cmx250 engine is very small. These engines are very well designed. Many used Rebels need a carb cleaning because they were stored for an extended period with gas in the carb.

Getting your sons to complete the MSF course is a smart move IMO.
12-11-2019 10:40 PM
Lazarus Long Thank you, VAReb and Flitecontrol. I have enjoyed so far. The camaraderie I see here is refreshing and impressive. I have been reading the forums for a couple of weeks and have realized how special this place is, and how special these bikes are.
I have done just a little wrenching, nothing like a total remodel, and not the inside of an engine. I have never bought a new bike, so each of my bikes over the years have gotten me dirty and busted my knuckles at least a little. I am not afraid to learn and the knowledge is shared nicely here.

My son has some ideas how he would like to build his bike, although I think to do it justice we would be better off starting with a cm250. He wants to make his into a cafe racer styled bike. I will help him with that, although I am a bigger fan of the "scrambler" look and rider position. Even my Z1000 has me leaning too far forward for any comfort past a 30 minute ride.

The TW's are very fun. TONS of torque and that back tire will float over mud that would have me sweating bullets on any other bike. It's not a dirt bike, I don't treat it like one. what it is, is the sure footed donkey that climbs up and down places you wouldn't think possible. I describe it as the most streetable dirt-bike, and the most dirtable street-bike ever. It does the dirt better than any other street bike I have ridden, and does the street better than any dirt bike I have ridden.

Thanks for the welcome, I hope to eventually be helpful here to others.
12-11-2019 09:17 PM
flitecontrol Welcome to the forum.
12-11-2019 07:53 PM
VAReb Welcome!

Those TWs are really cool. I might pick one up some day!

I am a relatively new rider and the Rebel is my first bike. Iím very happy I chose the Rebel when I was shopping - - it is a great choice for learning and applying skills. And it is no slouch either - - your son will not feel like heís on a moped, thatís for sure!

Enjoy the forum!
12-11-2019 07:01 PM
Lazarus Long TW, and I have been thinking of something we could work on together, where he can work on his own bike and learn to maintain it and make his own modifications.
I think I am going to put my Z1000 up for sale in the spring so I v
Can get TWO rebel 250's. Gonna keep the TW, but downsizing otherwise.

The riding position is more comfortable in the Rebel than the Z. I can't put 148 HP to actual use. I don't want my little guy thinking it is all about power and speed.

Anyway. I will be looking for bikes in the spring, but for now am reading, learning, and tempting the little guy with the beautiful eye candy we are finding here. Glad to have found you.
12-11-2019 06:52 PM
Lazarus Long
Going small

Hello to the Rebellion!
Been riding street bikes since 1985, was a bit of a hooligan then (in the military at that time. Young, dumb and... Stupid).
Currently have 3 bikes. 2003 (chipped) Z1000, 1999 Honda Shadow A.C.E., And a 2006 Yamaha TW200. I have the most fun on the little bike. A couple years ago, I taught my older son to ride the TW in the yard, then sent him to the MSF class. 16 years old, riding a bike to school and his sports for school. I found I missed my little bike.

Now, my youngest wants to ride. He has been my riding partner since he was 4, and at almost 14 is starting to plan his future motorcycle. He is not quite tall enough for the

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