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post #1 of 6 Old 02-08-2020, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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Starter clutch issues

This is my first post I mostly just read others because there are so many knowledgeable people on here that I can find my answer. Been riding my rebel for 2 years now and have put a lot of work into it I love riding this bike and don't want to just let it go I would rather fix it! I have a 86 cmx450 and I'm pretty sure my starter clutch is done for!!! Everything I read on here says you can't find parts to fix it. Anyone on here know of a place? Because I know it's pretty hard to find almost any part for my bike being it was only made for a couple years. So any help with finding parts or suggestions on other routes you guys have went having this same problem anything will help thanks!!!
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post #2 of 6 Old 02-08-2020, 09:25 PM
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Welcome to the forum. Parts to rebuild the starter clutch should still be available. You probably already know rebuilding the clutch requires splitting the cases. Usually all that's needed is replacing some weak springs and damaged rollers.

See this thread for some info: https://www.hondarebelforum.com/f82/...h-14372-8.html

Forum member jax rebuilds 450's and is very knowledgeable and helpful. Send him a PM if you need his expertise.

Do you have a service manual?

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Ya I have 2 different manuals I bought the bike in kinda rough shape so I have used them a ton for sure. I know I have to split it but I'm fine doing that as long as i can get parts to rebuild. I will check it out and message him. Thanks for pointing me somewhere I wasn't having much luck finding the parts. I want to get started on it soon I live in Utah and have a month and a half before it's warm again. Thanks again
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post #4 of 6 Old 02-13-2020, 10:43 PM
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Hello,

Curious as to what you are experiencing to think your starter clutch is toast(ed)?

I have not had to do one yet (knock on wood), but in my opinion, before I split the cases I would rebuild my starter first, replace the CDI with a new one, check the stator, switches, coil etc for functionality/resistance and maybe new spark plugs. Might save yourself a lot of bench work. I had trouble in one and found the stator was bad. I replaced CDI's too and my bikes have been faithfully turn key since.

Have you done a full tune up and confirmed you harness is communicating properly? With these bikes being almost 30 years old, I would recommend checking everything (if you haven't already if course!)

Might you have more details regarding what you are experiencing?

For starter clutch parts, If I am correct, my research shows that you will likely need to replace the internals only, #7, 8, and 12 and it looks like they are quite available:

https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts...664?a=1#sch915

I have never had trouble finding parts on the ol' webernet and have picked up 450's for a song.

Hope this helps!

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The issues I'm having with it is. It don't start when cold starts fine if the temp outside is above about 50 degrees or if the engine is already warm. The starter turns and has been bench tested and all seems fine. I had a shop rebuild it last season. The bike is all tuned up from last season, vaule adjust, oil change, plugs, wires, carbs gone through. Haven't done the cdi yet. When trying to start cold the starter cranks but the motor don't turn and it makes a strange grinding noise and no turn of the motor every so often it will catch enough for maybe one revolution of the motor then back to grinding sound. When I remove the starter to see the flywheel all teeth are good spins freely one way and it does catch the other way enough that I can't spin it with my finger but with a screwdriver and very little pressure I can make the flywheel spin that way. I will attach a video of the sound cause trust me I'm not trying to split the case but I am for sure trying to ride and not push start it every morn. I also have no clue mileage on the bike I bought it with a broken odometer cable and just took it off completely. Well I guess I can't attach a video so I can't let you hear the noise it makes.
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post #6 of 6 Old 02-17-2020, 05:57 PM
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I suggest the investment in ruling CDI out with a replacement. Jack's Rebel's sells CDI's.

Check your stator for proper (level of) resistance.

I would seek to rule out all electrical with a multimeter to check everything for proper resistance/flow.

Hope you can get it rolling soon.

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