Is this normal?/Blinker trouble. - Honda Rebel Forum
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 02:15 AM Thread Starter
 
rixonomic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 37
Garage
Is this normal?/Blinker trouble.

The wiring was a mess on this '87 CMX250. I re-connected everything and consulted a wiring diagram whenever I was unsure. At the end, I had one leftover pair of brown wires sticking out of the harness that seem to have no home:
http://www.hondarebelforum.com/attac...=66866&thumb=1

Given my limited knowledge in this area, I have to ask: Is this normal?

The main reason I have any doubts is because I'm still having some turn signal issues that I can't seem to resolve. I plan to purchase a new flasher next time I'm in town, because I suspect it's at least part of the problem.

When I started troubleshooting, the right signals were working just fine, but the left signals would just stay on when initiated. Now that I've re-wired everything, the issue is reversed and slightly different: the left signals work fine, but the right rear signal stays constant when initiated; while the right front signal does nothing whatsoever.

Confused yet? I know I am.

I know all my bulbs work, and the rear turn signals are brand new aftermarket deals. BUT, the license plate light quit working on me half way through this whole troubleshooting process. The bulb is fine, and even when I bypass the socket, I still get no light. This problem seemed to happen out of nowhere and for no obvious reason.

Anyway, I'm just looking for some tips, insight, or help of any kind... and an answer about my homeless brown wires

Thanks!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0006.JPG (181.3 KB, 2 views)

1987 Honda Rebel CMX250C (California)
rixonomic is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 07:54 AM Thread Starter
 
rixonomic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 37
Garage
I feel I should also mention that I've cleaned and rebuilt all the switches and buttons on the handlebars. I also browsed some old topics regarding turn signal issues and picked up a few good ideas for troubleshooting. Namely, bypassing the relay in order to narrow down other issues first. I also plan to build a test light, which I'm sure will prove to be an invaluable tool.

1987 Honda Rebel CMX250C (California)
rixonomic is offline  
post #3 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 01:15 PM Thread Starter
 
rixonomic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 37
Garage
Alright, good report: I noticed that the break light wasn't being triggered by either the front or the rear brake. So I adjusted the rear brake sensor, got that working, then I took apart and cleaned the front brake sensor (that was exciting; small, losable, spring loaded parts: yay!), cleaned that up and got it going again, and then I tried the blinkers one more time just for kicks, and lo and behold, they work perfectly every time! Man, I love that feeling of accomplishment after tackling a difficult problem. And I also found that the fuse for the license plate light had blown, probably from me coming up with creative (stupid?) ways of rigging up a bulb that didn't belong there... >_>

Anyway, just thought I'd check in so no one wastes their time trying to help me solve a problem that no longer exists.

1987 Honda Rebel CMX250C (California)
rixonomic is offline  
 
post #4 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 02:13 PM
jax
 
jax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Atascadero Ca. 93422
Posts: 1,687
Garage
Sounds like you did a great job of trouble shooting.
On the older bikes I always take the handle bar switches apart and clean all the old grease out and put new dielectric grease on the connection and put everything back together.
It solves a lot of electrical problems.

Ride Safe
Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up
1986 450 Rebel
jax is offline  
post #5 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 02:55 PM Thread Starter
 
rixonomic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 37
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jax View Post
Sounds like you did a great job of trouble shooting.
On the older bikes I always take the handle bar switches apart and clean all the old grease out and put new dielectric grease on the connection and put everything back together.
It solves a lot of electrical problems.
Thanks jax! Yeah, I gooped up all those switches with some dielectric grease after I cleaned them all out. And what a mess they were; the turn signal switch was so sticky that it wouldn't spring back to the neutral position on its own.

And it was just by chance that I bought that dielectric grease a number of months ago for a completely unrelated project. I rather enjoy the accidental conveniences in life.
rixonomic is offline  
post #6 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 03:18 PM
Moderator
 
Buickguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Michigan, near Ann Arbor
Posts: 17,771
Garage
the brown wires in an '87 are from the tail and license light circuit
if that in in the front wiring box its quite normal is where I took power for my front running lightswhen I added three wire signals it should not have to do with flasher operation




1987 CMX250C Rebel
2002 FSC600 SilverWing
1983 Yamaha Midnight Virago XV920MK
Put your bike's year and size in your signature.
It helps others help you.

Buickguy is offline  
post #7 of 7 Old 10-08-2015, 07:05 PM Thread Starter
 
rixonomic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 37
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buickguy View Post
the brown wires in an '87 are from the tail and license light circuit
if that in in the front wiring box its quite normal is where I took power for my front running lightswhen I added three wire signals it should not have to do with flasher operation
Ah, thank you Buickguy. I must admit, even after sorting out my electrical issues, I was still puzzled and a bit concerned about those brown wires. But now I can ride at ease.

1987 Honda Rebel CMX250C (California)
rixonomic is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Rebel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome