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post #21 of 30 Old 02-27-2020, 02:28 PM
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Have you checked the part numbers for both generation stators? If the same, the stators are identical. If they differ, they may still be identical because Honda often changed part numbers between model years. Sorry, not much help. Have you considered having the stator rewound?

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I checked the part numbers with the Honda shop yesterday. They said they were two different numbers. Now whether the dimensions of the new one are the same? I haven't a clue. Hoping someone would know. Did Honda change the crankcase or the left hand cover much after 85-87? ALL I WANT IS FIRE!!! LOL

Rewinding I priced was $150-$250. Which is outrageous. You could buy 4 off amazon for that price.

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That does sound excessive. There was a guy on ebay that rewound them to better than OEM specs for $75, but he's no longer in business.

Not positive, but think the crankcase covers are interchangeable. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You can find Honda part numbers here: https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemp...torcycle/parts

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That does sound excessive. There was a guy on ebay that rewound them to better than OEM specs for $75, but he's no longer in business.

Not positive, but think the crankcase covers are interchangeable. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You can find Honda part numbers here: https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemp...torcycle/parts
Excellent Idea looking at the cases. So I looked at these, looks identical indeed.

Next problem is, are both rotors the same?

Would that matter?

I would expect it would depending on the different winding set ups of each stator.

In theory, all I would have to do is update the charging/exciter system to the 96 and up. Also looks like the crankshafts are the same part number between 86 and 96.

If I get this bike running its going to be a small miracle.
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There are outfits that rewind stators, usually for much less than a new one. You might see if a local alternator/starter shop could do it, and what they'd charge.

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There are outfits that rewind stators, usually for much less than a new one. You might see if a local alternator/starter shop could do it, and what they'd charge.
Ain't no starter/altenator shops around here, hell we just got this thing they call internet the other day. Finally got rid of the ol telegraph line, bob lost his job as the telegraph operator and his ol lady aint too happy.

Shops just buy new or remans and install them on vehicles. The remans come from Mexico typically. Still better off buying new and giving it a shot.

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These shops indicate they do starter/alternator repair.

https://kustomillusionsllc.com/alter...ir-cheyenne-wy

https://www.mechanicadvisor.com/wy/c...nd-service-llc

And this one sells rebuilt Rebel stators. They might buy your old one. https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com...Stator-20_H144

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These shops indicate they do starter/alternator repair.

https://kustomillusionsllc.com/alter...ir-cheyenne-wy

https://www.mechanicadvisor.com/wy/c...nd-service-llc

And this one sells rebuilt Rebel stators. They might buy your old one. https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com...Stator-20_H144
I appreciate your willingness to help, I've got the internet too. Cheyenne is 6.5 hrs away via automobile. Not wasting my money and time to drive down there. The rebuilt stator you sent in that link is $175.....No way in hell am I spending that much either, when they require you to send yours in first. It's like paying someone for work before they complete it.

I'm gonna be at no loss trying the 96 and up stator, especially if I am running the 96 and up Voltage regulator with it.

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I'm pretty sure you will need the flywheel that goes with the 96-up stator. I have a second gen side cover with stator and pickup with a matching flywheel i can send you for a small price.
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I'm pretty sure you will need the flywheel that goes with the 96-up stator. I have a second gen side cover with stator and pickup with a matching flywheel i can send you for a small price.
I PM'd you. That'll be mad helpful having that!

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