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post #11 of 14 Old 11-09-2019, 03:48 AM
 
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Could you provide a link to find those particular forward controls, please?
Those are mounted on a 1400 Intruder, tracing the pic I found it on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/TARAZON-Alumi.../dp/B06XSFKW3K

AME in Germany makes a similar set-up for the 96+ 250 for around $500 + overseas S/H, after that Blue Collar Bobbers offers a kit that relocates the stock pegs. Mapam has been off and on lately with their offerings, more off than on.
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I've thinking that a straight pipe to provide highways legs would be nice - to incorporate it with forward controls is a bonus. Further bonus is that it would protect the bike in low speed falls but also protect the rider by not trapping the legs in higher speed crashes. I did something like like on my Ruckus 50cc but never did worry about high speed problems.

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I've read quite a bit of evidence 'crash bars' are actually a bad thing in high speed crashes, from the hurt report:

Crash bars are not an effective injury countermeasure; the reduction of injury to the ankle-foot is balanced by an increase of injury to the thigh-upper leg, knee, and lower leg.
So basically in crashes 'crash bars' tend to turn more minor injuries into major ones. Not only that, in high speed incidents they can cause quite severe engine damage that would otherwise just be a minor part replacement or cosmetic damage to a cover:

I have seen several wrecks where the cylinder has been broken off. . . . These bikes all had crash bars. Crash bars cause cylinders to get snapped off and riders to sustain a greater injury. - https://w6rec.com/crash-bars-are-very-dangerous/
I think they are misnamed, they are only effective as 'drop bars'. In a zero speed drop they prevent damage and allow picking up the bike and rolling on without needing a crow bar to bend the clutch lever back out, for example (ahem, I may have done this) and embarrassing and potentially expensive cosmetic damage. They can also be useful for comfort, i.e. highway pegs. However, in a high speed crash you're almost certainly better off without them.

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I would avoid crash bars. They bend when you fall and will likely add to your injury

Engine guards are not crash bars. I see many pics of engine guards improperly installed, with pegs on them. smh.

Here is a pic of both installed on my 450. Had to fab some brackets to get the crash bars more forward, due to my forwards.

I fell with this set up, very low speed low-side left and broke my foot pretty good. Bars caught my foot up and actually caused my bike to slide quite far away from me also.

I personally will never (ever) use crash bars again, not gonna save you in a crash and have shown to actually increase rider injury. That's just facts. I do like the look though.

I think engine guards installed properly guard the engine well!
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