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post #1 of 8 Old 04-06-2016, 12:08 AM Thread Starter
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What's the biggest size tires you can fit on a 250 Rebel? I'm looking to remove the front fender and grind out those side bolts v where the front fender connectsv to. If anybody has pictures to go along with this, that would be awesome. Thanks in advance peeps
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I didn't go with a bigger tire but here's the fork lowers sans fender nubs:

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Here's a 120/90-18 for you in a Rebel 450.
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What's the biggest size tires you can fit on a 250 Rebel? I'm looking to remove the front fender and grind out those side bolts v where the front fender connectsv to. If anybody has pictures to go along with this, that would be awesome. Thanks in advance peeps
I actually just started a thread on this, and there are other threads covering it, but I'll summarize below. The biggest tires you can fit on the Rebel (just physically, not necessarily recommended for performance) are below. Keep in mind that this is mainly for looks. The rim isn't any wider and the fat tire affect is the sidewall ballooning out. The performance impact is certainly debatable. I know some people hate it, others didn't. My wife likes the bigger front tire. The Rebel turns in better, handles the crappy pot-hole infested roads better, and seems less susceptible to bump steer. But we only ride around town and her Rebel is just for fun anyway. So your results may vary.

So with that info:

Front: 120/90-18
Notes: The front fender won't fit, however you can use a 1985 Shadow VF700 fender with slight modification (see my thread) and it will bolt right up.

Rear: 140/90-15
Notes: Will clear the fender and the chain guard with no modification. About 1/4" gap to the chain guard.

Rear:150/90-15
Notes: Won't clear the chain guard and is extremely close to the stock fender sides. Would probably need to remove the rear fender and go without or modify a fender to fit. This is also very close to the drum brake torque arm.

I have photos up on the thread I started about fitting the VF700 fender. We ran Shinko Tour Master's 120/90-18 front, 140/90-15 rear. I also opted for a 90deg valve stem on the rear tube as it was easier to get the pump on. The wheels were stripped down, bead blasted, powder coated in Ironstone Bronze, new All-Balls bearings & seals, new tubes & rim strips along with the tires.

With the 85 Shadow fender:


Without:


In the sun beside my 2016 Indian Scout Sixty: (easier to see the hammered bronze)


Cheers!

Mike
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I actually just started a thread on this, and there are other threads covering it, but I'll summarize below. The biggest tires you can fit on the Rebel (just physically, not necessarily recommended for performance) are below. Keep in mind that this is mainly for looks. The rim isn't any wider and the fat tire affect is the sidewall ballooning out. The performance impact is certainly debatable. I know some people hate it, others didn't. My wife likes the bigger front tire. The Rebel turns in better, handles the crappy pot-hole infested roads better, and seems less susceptible to bump steer. But we only ride around town and her Rebel is just for fun anyway. So your results may vary.

So with that info:

Front: 120/90-18
Notes: The front fender won't fit, however you can use a 1985 Shadow VF700 fender with slight modification (see my thread) and it will bolt right up.

Rear: 140/90-15
Notes: Will clear the fender and the chain guard with no modification. About 1/4" gap to the chain guard.

Rear:150/90-15
Notes: Won't clear the chain guard and is extremely close to the stock fender sides. Would probably need to remove the rear fender and go without or modify a fender to fit. This is also very close to the drum brake torque arm.

I have photos up on the thread I started about fitting the VF700 fender. We ran Shinko Tour Master's 120/90-18 front, 140/90-15 rear. I also opted for a 90deg valve stem on the rear tube as it was easier to get the pump on. The wheels were stripped down, bead blasted, powder coated in Ironstone Bronze, new All-Balls bearings & seals, new tubes & rim strips along with the tires.

With the 85 Shadow fender:


Without:


In the sun beside my 2016 Indian Scout Sixty: (easier to see the hammered bronze)


Cheers!

Mike
So this is a rebel 250 that you did this on?!! It looks amazing! Iím going to show this to my husband ASAP. I have a 2006 rebel 250 that only has 1300 miles on it that I just picked up last week. I totally love it for getting around and for fun but wish there were bigger tires. Just love it, thanks for posting! Ps is it hard to find that front fender??
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So this is a rebel 250 that you did this on?!! It looks amazing! Iím going to show this to my husband ASAP. I have a 2006 rebel 250 that only has 1300 miles on it that I just picked up last week. I totally love it for getting around and for fun but wish there were bigger tires. Just love it, thanks for posting! Ps is it hard to find that front fender??
What they don't tell you or don't realize is without finder cross brace the lower half of shock tubes will flex allowing tire centerline movement of 1/2" or more..
take off your fender and pull tire to right or left while holding handlebar strait.. all I have to say on subject

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What they also don't tell you is the Australian and some Asian market models have an ABS plastic front from the factory. While fork flex is a real thing on motorcycles --- more so when you do what I do with them (re: longer forks) --- I don't foresee a plastic fender offering much in the way of being a counteractive agent in that.

"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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So this is a rebel 250 that you did this on?!! It looks amazing! Iím going to show this to my husband ASAP. I have a 2006 rebel 250 that only has 1300 miles on it that I just picked up last week. I totally love it for getting around and for fun but wish there were bigger tires. Just love it, thanks for posting! Ps is it hard to find that front fender??
The 85 Shadow VF700 front fender was easy to find on Ebay. The hard part is finding the painted one as some were chromed (both versions are steel). As far as running the bigger tire without the front fender, we didn't do that very long as we were merely waiting on the new front fender to show up. My wife Melly didn't care for the no-fender bobber look anyway. There really wasn't any noticeable performance difference between having a front fender and not. The biggest performance change was the tire sizes. With the larger tire the Rebel 250 seems to have more turn in. Can't really say if it was "better" or "worse", just different. It rides smoothly and no issues even at highway speeds.

To get the 85 Shadow VF700 fender to fit on a Honda Rebel CMX 250, you have to elongate the rear mounting holes on the fender. On the Rebel all you have to do is remove a little bit of the aluminum (about 1/8") where the mounting studs are on the fork legs. The threaded holes are plenty deep enough to have enough bite after modification. Then a quick trip to the hardware store for slightly shorter screws. It bolts right up and fits fine. No rubbing on the tire and plenty of room for the bigger size.

Cheers!

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