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post #1 of 16 Old 05-20-2020, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
 
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Fuel from Overflow

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I have a 2009 Rebel that I purchased new when living in CA. The bike now only has 2,600 miles on it (pretty pathetic I realize). Always garaged and in perfect condition. Unfortunately the bike hasn't been ridden in 2-years. I did drain the fuel from the tank but not the bowl which is clearly a huge mistake. Prior to this hiatus, the bike was developing a progressive problem of needing more and more choke to stay running. Clearly the idle jet was getting clogged due to old gas. When getting ready to ride again, I figured I would have to get the carb cleaned but I thought for the heck of it I would at least drain the float bowl and put in straight Seafoam which I let sit for 4 days while I awaited a new battery. I drained the Seafoam from the bowl and then put some gas in the tank to see how bad the situation would be. However, when turning the petcock on the gas basically runs out the overflow tube. I did check that the float bowl drain screw was tight. I am assuming it's varnished in there and is therefore perhaps not sealing properly. I do have a fuel filter which I installed right after buying the bike new and the tank is completely clean and rust free. So my guess is purely varnish. I had at least expected the bike to run so that I could get it to a shop, but now I cannot even do that. I am not even sure the best way to get it there if I cannot even get it going. Any recommendations that I could reasonable do here? Having watched and read about cleaning the carb DIY has left me feeling I'd be less than successful.

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-20-2020, 08:09 PM
 
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I would try some more Seafoam. Sit on the bike upright and hit the carb with the handle end of a screw driver. It may just need a jarring of some sort to come free. Rock the bike from side to side may help. If this fails, your best bet would be Jacks Rebel Warehouse. He can clean the carb for you.

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post #3 of 16 Old 05-20-2020, 08:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for the reply. I did hit the carb earlier but it didn't help. The bike is on a stand so I didn't try rocking, etc., but of course I can take it off. When you say try more Seafoam, you mean put more in the float bowl and wait some days? I know Jacks but didn't know he took the entire carb for cleaning. I'll check this out if I otherwise cannot get this thing running.
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Some further updates here. If I turn the petcock off and give the bike a lot of choke, I can get it started based on the fuel in the carb. No fuel comes out of the hose. However, with the bike running if I turn the petcock back on, it will stall out almost immediately. With the bike then off, after some seconds, fuel starts coming out of the hose until the petcock is shut off again.
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Do you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner? They clean carbs very well. The float valve rubber may have stiffened and/or developed a ring, where it mates against the brass seat. But in that case, the leak shouldn't be as bad as you describe.

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I don't have access to any equipment for this. I am loath to take the carb apart even after watching some videos.
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Your description sounds as if the tank vent is plugged. Take off the gas cap and see if the bike runs...

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I tried with gas cap off originally as well but the gas still runs out with the petcock on (both with the gas cap on and off). At great pain today, I removed the carb from the bike. I found a great video on cleaning it, but after the nightmare that was removal, I think I may just send it to Jack.
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I opted to take apart the carb myself based on a great video I found. Figured worse comes to worse, I can package it all up and send to Jack. I have it all apart but have two questions:

1/ The screws for the bowl are soft and some were damaged when trying to remove. I am guessing I am not the first to have this happen. Are there recommended replacements?
2/ Is using the Berrymans dip good enough or should I be looking to get a rebuild kit?
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I replace the crappy carb screws with stainless socket head screws. If you ever need to open it up again, it's easy. Berryman will clean the jets, pilot screw, and every other metal part of the carb. You will probably need a new bowl gasket and if the float valve tip is hard, I would replace it while you're in there. That's about all you should need unless the Pilot screw and carb drain screw O-rings are damaged removing them. I have those two O-rings I sell for a forever postage stamp each if you need them. You probably already know Chem Dip will destroy rubber and plastic, so don't put any of those parts in it.

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