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post #31 of 67 Old 09-29-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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As said, different folk have differing opinions.
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I for one stand on "accelerating out of danger" as a bad idea. For one thing, once you successfully "accelerate out of danger" you are now placing yourself into potential dangerous situations at higher speeds that mandate the resulting longer stopping distances. As soon as someone can provide stats of a vehicle that has better 60-100 acceleration times compared to its 60-0 stopping times, I will maintain my stance.

No-front-brake vehicles don't count in that statistic either, for obvious reasons at said higher speeds.
One situation I can think of that would justify hard acceleration would be the high speed red light runner approaching from either left or right as you ride through the intersection. Of course you should have seen him coming if you had done your checks left and right as you approached the green light, but assuming he just popped up at the last second, then one gear down and hard on the gas might get you out of there before getting T-boned. We actually demo this situation for students toward the end of the BRC using one of the instructor's bikes with plenty of horsepower. It is pretty dramatic to go from 3rd gear to 2cd with a throttle roll on on the BMW K1200 for example. On a Rebel, it may not provide enough boost to make much of a difference, and the impending T-bone collision is one of those rare situations where you should get off the bike so your leg doesn't get crushed.
As always a split second good decision is required to minimize or prevent injury.

However, as Shack says, committing to higher speed in a bad situation is usually not what you want to do because you may get out of one bad situation and immediately find yourself in trouble again.

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Approaching a light that just turned yellow and you have a tailgater.
The idiot at your 8 o'clock can't stay in their lane because they are texting while driving.

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Which can also be countered with "are you actively paying attention to where you're going or where you've been?" While one does need to split their attention actively in both directions, in such a situation I wouldn't be overly comfortable with "blindly" accelerating while concentrating on my six...a simple merge (or --- shudder the thought outside of California --- lane split) works just as well.

"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
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...I wouldn't be overly comfortable with "blindly" accelerating while concentrating on my six....

Blindly?!?!?!


um, the question was about being safe riding a rebel on the interstate.
On surface streets your avoidance options are left/right/brake/accelerate, and you observe/predict/prepare/position yourself to keep your decision options for all 4 as open as possible. Apparently the rebel doesn't have enough go-go to accelerate away when you are already at interstate speeds? so is it unwise to ride on the interstate when you don't have the option to choose to accelerate away?

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The interstate is one of the safest places to ride a motorcycle. There are no surface intersections, all traffic is going the same way. There are very few chances for collisions. I can't think of a situation where a sudden burst of speed would be necessary to avoid an accident. A Rebel will be at the end of its speed string on a freeway, so you need to keep right and out of the way of faster traffic.

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Blindly?!?!?!


um, the question was about being safe riding a rebel on the interstate.
On surface streets your avoidance options are left/right/brake/accelerate, and you observe/predict/prepare/position yourself to keep your decision options for all 4 as open as possible. Apparently the rebel doesn't have enough go-go to accelerate away when you are already at interstate speeds? so is it unwise to ride on the interstate when you don't have the option to choose to accelerate away?
Not blindly, but "blindly"...the reference being you are spending more attention on your mirrors than what is in front of you.
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On paper they are not ever a problem.
They are professional drivers that are very safety minded.
They drive the speed limit and stay in the right hand lane.

Still, in real life, they do not always mix well with traffic.
When someone wants your piece of real estate, it is nice to be able to grab some throttle and buy the next available comfort zone 40 feet ahead.

This is an option that comes with some bikes. (Acceleration at highways speeds)

This is not an option for a Rebel, so just hit the brakes hard and try and fit in somewhere in the Nascar snarl behind the offending car or Semi.
Once the other drivers see you coming they will all make room.

Sometimes you just have to fit in..

It is not nice to be crowded, especially with on ramps, clover leafs, five lanes merging to four then three, right lanes leading to the business sections.
Suddenly the left lanes are pealing off to the beach route creating a situation where you are needing to quickly figure if going straight is the correct answer for your situation.
Yes, sometimes you just need to find a spot to fit in and do it quickly, smoothly and safely in advance.
When acceleration is not an option, you must slow down to change lanes.
Slowing down to fit in and change lanes is like rubbing a cat the wrong way.
The simple answer is to only travel on roads you know and feel comfortable on.
Or just miss your turn and figure out how to circle back.

Not being able to accelerate when needed is like not have any money in the bank when you need it.
You just have to be clear with your intentions, signal well in advance and slow down to mix into traffic.
A few cars may have to back off to allow this to happen, but they will (if they are paying attention and realize what your true intentions are).

It is true that we rarely have trouble riding on the interstate, but Jacksonville was quite difficult for me the first time I tried visiting the the Mayport Naval Base.
The construction and the confusing signage was enough to un-nerve me, while the addition of the extremely tall bridges kept me on alert and in the middle lanes through-out all the changes.

My Camry, Goldwing or Harley would have been a better, more comfortable choice.
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IMHO ferrarimx5 just made the most intelligent comment in this entire thread..
It makes sense. ...naysayers will have your day, but his thesis is sound.






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I don't feel safe on the freeway riding the Rebel. Speed limits here are 70 on most of I95 so traffic is generally going 80-85 - except for the Rebel which is struggling to keep up at 20-25 mph slower. There isn't much traffic but they come up really fast from behind.
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