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post #1 of 19 Old 05-29-2019, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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1st solid hour of riding

I finally took the bike off the squirly back road that is my daily commute down to the coastal highway.



I filled up with gas and took in about 25 miles of coast before heading back up the hill. Max speed 50, average 30. It was really nice to get in a few 40mph curves and asides from when the road resembled a Dali painting, the bike was rock steady.


I practiced looking where I wanted to go, squeezing the tank, foot placement. I concentrated on smoothing my throttle inputs and a couple of times very gently counter-steer.



And I had fun.
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post #2 of 19 Old 05-29-2019, 06:44 PM
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Good to hear.

You counter steered every time you moved the bike, whether for a minor lane adjustment or negotiating a turn.

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Yeah, I should have said "consciously counter steered".


I have noticed a tendency which I think is not counter steering (although I could certainly be wrong).


Sometimes when I feel I need a tighter line, throttle eases off, the bike 'falls' deeper into the lean and my body counters by straightening up. I don't really know what the heck I am doing, but it works. But I'm guessing I must wobble through that point, which isn't ideal for traction.

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If you are swinging too wide on a turn, shift your weight towards the inside of the turn. It changes the center of gravity and stands the bike more upright, allowing the rider to take a tighter line. Due to bike geometry, sport bike racers are able to do extreme body shifts, but that isn't possible on a Rebel. I slide my butt over on the seat 'till about half is hanging over the edge of the seat, and lean my upper body into the curve. Even this small weight shift makes a significant difference in how much lean is possible without losing traction. Keep the head level so you don't lose perspective.

Practice it first on safe, gentle, curves to develop the habit and feel what is going on.

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Thanks, that makes sense. I do remember that from the course, but we only practiced it 2-3 times before moving on.



I expect that technique would also be better for the curves I crawl around due to grit and duff.

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Gravel and sand can be hazardous, especially in a curve. Many riders have gone down in such conditions. I try to ride straight and upright as much as possible on those surfaces. Packed gravel roads aren't a problem, but loose gravel, especially on asphalt or concrete roads, can be like riding on ball bearings.
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Today the county patched the road, so no more pot holes, just sticky rocks in the vicinity.


And the logging truck season has started. Time to get serious about that e-stop practice.


The worst corners around here are the ones that are on a steep incline and very tight. The surface is usually fine grit most of the way around, you can't see it until you're very close.



I tried shifting my weight while in a couple of bends going home last night. Yeah that's going to take me some practice.

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The worst corners around here are the ones that are on a steep incline and very tight. The surface is usually fine grit most of the way around, you can't see it until you're very close.



I tried shifting my weight while in a couple of bends going home last night. Yeah that's going to take me some practice.
Decreasing radius downhill curves are the trickiest to negotiate/master. Throw in sand or gravel and it gets infinitely moreso. Since you can't see the grit very far ahead, anticipate that it is in every curve and ride accordingly.

Weight shifting is going to feel awkward until you get the hang of it. It really isn't needed unless you find yourself going into a turn too hot with no opportunity to brake sufficiently. It's similar to emergency braking; you don't need the skill unless you really need it. Here's a video of a pro racer doing it.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/motor...rams_n_4298244
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Here's a video of a pro racer doing it.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/motor...rams_n_4298244

That's an excellent video, thank you. I see (s)he set up way before the curve and those movements are so crisp with no wobble. I think that's where I'm going to start, hang off one side while going straight, shift left, middle, right, middle, etc. Once I get comfortable with that I can move onto mid-curve shifts.
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Before practicing advanced moves like that, put a lot of miles on the bike - like several thousand. Take things gradually and ride conservatively. I mentioned body position only as something riders should eventually have in their skillset. Learn to ride, stay in your comfort zone, and work on the more challenging techniques as you gain confidence..

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