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post #21 of 30 Old 10-21-2019, 03:00 PM
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This post got me geeked to get my bike down the track. Went to the shop yesterday to work on it. Put on a boost gauge. Got it kinda OK now, but have to run it under load to get some actual boost so we can see where we are. Gonna clean up the harness and controls, add seat and put headlight back on.

I am going to inaugurate the 450 class and set myself up as the one to beat!

Don't know about Georgia in Nov., but will be ready to forward some video with slips to match this spring!

Real test run video soon, here's a bench test video from yesterday:


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Uhhhhh ... I'm going to have to guess, that you'll fit in the modified class. I'll have to watch the video from home, but I'm looking forward to learning about your Rebel.

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It sounds like lots of fun, but if I were to race, I'd prefer a straight track. I have no experience racing a bike. As a group, I'm not sure that everyone else does either. We could still have fun just trying to go fast without squeezing each other around corners. Where will this event be? An unused airstrip next to a campground would be ideal.

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Fridgitator - Maybe I'm not being clear … I'm talking about a straight track too. At a drag strip, I have my doubts any of us 250s would hit 70 mph. The only wear point we would see is … clutch. And for real very little clutch wear for any experienced riders. No burnouts needed, no spinning out off the start line is going to happen, no wheelies would happen. Spinning out and wheelies off the start line can lead to loss of control. But the way I see it, our Rebels are about as safe as any 2 wheeled vehicle could be at a drag strip.

"All you gotta do" is get the clutch engaged, then roll through as many gears as you can before crossing the line. Head back to the pits, tell 7milesout your reaction time, elapsed time, and trap speed (let me load that into my spreadsheet), then commence to playing grab-ass. My son races(raced) BMX (I did too a little). I have a canopy and a decent pit set-up. It is always fun at the BMX track. He's stopped because now he's wrestling and playing football, just doesn't have time for BMX.

There's lots of dragstrips around. Most around me are 1/8th mile tracks. I've ran 1/4 miles and 1/8 mile tracks. The 1/4 mile tracks are more than double the fun. There's a nice Mom-N-Pop track about 70 miles from me that I've been to a couple times in my Scamp. I've been on the phone with them and now emailing. They allow camping on their grounds. It would be fun. We could have a race one day, and a ride the next. Something like that.


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Just a little more thinking on this...

I guess we've mostly swept this under the rug. But this is what I would enjoy to do. I think it would be fun to have a few guys show up next year and let the track let us run down in our own groups. Its not so much fun to just go to your local track, run down the track, get laughed at, and come back and tell us your numbers. It's way more fun to have a get together.

I have made an excel spreadsheet that randomly sets up the races in the first round. And then it tracks and computes all the rest of the race brackets, by inputting all the track data they give on the time slips. As long as we all weigh our bikes and riders together, this spreadsheet also computes horsepower to the rear tire.

So not only could we crown a "King of Rebels," we could also crown the top 3 most powerful Rebels. I think it would be a blast. Course not much is going to happen over the winter, and maybe this will be my last post about this for awhile. Cause it's getting right chilly down here too.

The only thing I wanted to ask, is about "bye" runs. If I could manage to get enough Rebels together to have even a small get together / race, I don't believe in running a "bye" run.

Let's say, for argument sake, 21 Rebels show up. My spreadsheet randomly populates the riders in a column. #1 races #2, #3 races #4 and so on. All the way to #20. However, the odd #21 racer would get a "bye" run. I don't like that. Nobody should get a cake walk. So, what I've done in my spreadsheet is to create a "lucky dog." Let's just say, I'm rider #21. And I've got a really poor running Rebel, and I'm no good at launching. It's not fair that I get a cake walk. So, me, the #21 rider I propose to have to race the, "lucky dog."

The "lucky dog" is the quickest loser from the first 20 bikes. Let's say the quickest loser is a rider who just happened to get lined up in the very first round with a former pro drag racing female who is 85 pounds and has a hot running Rebel (far fetched yes, but just for argument's sake). Is it fair the fastest loser is out? And my slow butt gets a cake walk? No. The fastest loser becomes the "lucky dog" and gets a 2nd chance to be in the winner's bracket, and get's to race who would have had a bye run.

So what do you guys think about the Lucky Dog / no bye runs idea?

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post #26 of 30 Old 11-22-2019, 08:17 PM
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well if that was to happen i guess i would win being that i have had my 2001 rebel hit 80
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I'd like to participate in something like this. Since my Rebel can barely haul me up steep hills at 35 I have no delusions of winning, but it would be fun to give it hell for a quarter mile. It would highly depend on when/where though.

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post #28 of 30 Old 12-11-2019, 10:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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What about April 2020, Reynolds, GA? Pay the track $25 (at most). Then maybe we have our own Rebel Racing $25 entry fee, 100% payout (noone but the track makes money).

Things get fouled up, everyone gets their $25 back.

Awards:
  • King of the Rebels (winner of the drag race, gets 2/3rds of the pot).
  • Most Powerful Rebel (gets 1/3rd of the pot)

Might not be much $, but it's just for giggles.

King of the Rebels and the most powerful Rebel may or may not be the same.

Anyone can come and run the track, but only the signed up 233.8 cc bikes are competitors in the first event.

All signed up riders staged randomly. Pro tree racing only (very easy and fair).

No bye runs due to odd numbers of riders. An otherwise bye run, races the "Lucky Dog." The Lucky Dog is the fastest loser from a round with an odd number of racers.

Most Powerful Rebel is calculated automatically via my spreadsheet from weight of rider and bike, combined with race run statistics.


Sounds like a ton of fun, socializing, comradery for not much money. Might be difficult logistically for some though, but whatta ya gonna do?


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well if that was to happen i guess i would win being that i have had my 2001 rebel hit 80
Top speed means nothing unless you can hit it by the -mile finish line.

That said, if it were a top speed contest the best you're looking at is 2nd place...
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It would be difficult to have a top speed test. It takes my Rebel 20 miles to hit top speed! 🤣. I'm not likely to win anything. Too much spare beef.

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