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post #1 of 40 Old 05-14-2013, 03:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sometimes hard to shift up

Does anyone else have trouble shifting up sometimes? It's like I've got to pull myself up to shift up. Also, I can't always shift down into first when rolling to a stop sign. My husband said he has that issue as well on his Ninja.

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post #2 of 40 Old 05-14-2013, 03:51 PM
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Duckster can fill you in on proper shifting technique, if that is the issue.
I can tell you about how the linkage needs to be aligned parallel to work well and how lubrication on the shift linkage and bearing where the shift shaft goes through the sprocket cover can cause stiff shifting.
Check the lubrication. I use a spray white lithium grease on the ball and socket joints of the shift linkage. I pull the rubber boots back gently and spray it in.
On the bearing in the sprocket cover, I take the linkage loose from the shift shaft, take off the sprocket case cover, clean the bearing with kerosene and lube it with the grease from my grease gun. You know, the stuff they squirt in to the ball joints on a car.

If the linkage isn't parallel or the linkage rod is bent, the lever won't throw riht. It will go too far one way, and not far enough the other.



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As my husband said the bike has a very wide shifter. I had a break from riding and have only had it a month. Just have to get used to it again. I don't drive anything automatic, so I know how to properly shift.

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This might help. Greasing that shifter pivot point helped a great deal.

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Lubricating the linkage makes a big difference as does wearing proper footwear with thin soles and low toes so its easy to move your foot over and under the lever.
The technique is simply to PULL or PUSH (not tug at or tap) the lever all the way to the end of its travel and hold it there momentarily on every shift. If you do this you will never miss a shift.

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I just had to grease my joints on the gear changer. Mine stuck when shifting down and had to lift it up a little with my foot or else it would not shift down to the next gear. Oiled the joints and now it's all good...

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I have a 2006 250 Rebel and it was so had to go from 1st to 2nd that it became a safety hazard for me in city traffic. So bought a made on China (not my 1st choice) for 100.00 and problem solved...Even when took safety course the 250 nighthawks were hard to get into second gear.
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I don't know what to tell you... other than that there is no design problem with the Honda 125/250 transmission setup... There's a kazillion of them around, many of those in training service with no issues. It's possible to have trouble if the linkage needs lubrication, but its an easy fix.

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I'm coming in late to this ball but hoping you can still answer a question. My girlfriend just bought a 2006 Rebel 250 and it is almost impossible to shift out of 1st sometimes. At least with a toe. What did you buy to fix the problem? I'll try greasing the linkage but it feels like there is another problem. Thanks
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Welcome, Happylandings. If the linkage is dirty, cleaning and lubricating it will help a lot. Is there some free play in the clutch cable? The end of the shift lever should move 3/8" to 3/4" before any resistance is felt.

If all the above are properly done, I would first question if she is using the right technique. Some folks with smaller hands have trouble pulling the lever all the way to the handlebars.

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