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post #21 of 53 Old 05-19-2017, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ok, let me start over. I guess I should of said "chobber inspired" build. I didn't mean to sound harsh. But like I said in my first post.

"I rode it for 7 to 8 months getting to know it. With that I figured what I wanted to do to it. No frame chopping or changing the geometry, just remove some things, fab some parts, add some parts etc.."

And I would never build something that isn't safe to ride. And I only ride to work or school during daylight hours. Or on weekends for pleasure during daylight hours. I don't ride in the rain or when it is really windy. I won't ride it until it has a rear fender that is properly attached except around the block to test the seat height. Or until all lights are working correct. So I am pretty safe and my bike isn't my first way of transportation.
I drilled the seat bracket and secured two screws so the springs will line up perfectly on the back. Now I will drill two bolts up the back of the frame and secure the springs tight to the frame. I think I will dip the springs in black paint and lacquer over it to protect from the elements.
Also like I said in the first post

"Stage two will be once I double check my wiring and all is correct neatly button the wires all under the seat under a cut to size sheet of aluminum and paint it black and zip tie to the frame.
Get a blank half circle rear chopper fender that I can modify and trim to how I like. Attach it with weld on fender struts and an L shaped bracket and weld it to the bottom of fender and swingarm to hold the fender in place. (so I will have a rear fender to protect me)
Remove front fender
add new handlebars.
Don't know if I wanna do Frisco bars, Streamliner bars, bootleggers or mini apes. I am kinda liking the Rabbit bars. I need some suggestion with these as well. So what do you guys think?
Again, I was just trying to get suggestions and have no intentions of doing a slop unsafe job. I do metal fabrication at work, but have never worked on a motorcycle before so I would really appreciate all the help you guys could give.
Thanks again guys

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Oh and on the resale discussion. I have no intention to try to resale my bike at all. I plan on riding it and if I think I out grow it in a couple of years, I will give it to my 16 year old nephew, who is wanting a bike and would teach him to ride on it and I would get something a little bigger. I am sure he would want to make it the way he like it and it would be a project we would work on together.

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Great response Jason, and I apologize for overreacting to your modifications. You have every right to modify it to however you like, and it is commendable that you understand the need for safety, and plan to maintain that.

I feel that a rear fender is part of that, and am glad to hear that you will be adding one back.

I will caution about one of the negative consequences of removing the front fender that you may not be aware of. In addition to preventing some things from being thrown up from the road into your face, it also provides lateral support for the forks. I highly recommend that if you remove it, that you at least add a fork brace to keep the forks from being wobbly. If you had ever hit a bump in the middle of a curve with unsupported forks, you would know what I mean. You can barely control the handlebars or keep the bike on the road due to the oscillation back and forth. Many people even add braces to bikes that have fenders to prevent or minimize this uncomfortable, scary, and dangerous phenomenon. I added one to my Dyna Wide Glide immediately after the first time it did that to me, but not until after I changed underwear.

Good luck with your build. I love the white Rebel, since it is such a great canvas for paint artwork, and customizing. I just wish your tastes had been toward adding to it, instead of taking off of it.

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Ok, let me start over. I guess I should of said "chobber inspired" build. I didn't mean to sound harsh. But like I said in my first post.

"I rode it for 7 to 8 months getting to know it. With that I figured what I wanted to do to it. No frame chopping or changing the geometry, just remove some things, fab some parts, add some parts etc.."

And I would never build something that isn't safe to ride. And I only ride to work or school during daylight hours. Or on weekends for pleasure during daylight hours. I don't ride in the rain or when it is really windy. I won't ride it until it has a rear fender that is properly attached except around the block to test the seat height. Or until all lights are working correct. So I am pretty safe and my bike isn't my first way of transportation.
I drilled the seat bracket and secured two screws so the springs will line up perfectly on the back. Now I will drill two bolts up the back of the frame and secure the springs tight to the frame. I think I will dip the springs in black paint and lacquer over it to protect from the elements.
Also like I said in the first post

"Stage two will be once I double check my wiring and all is correct neatly button the wires all under the seat under a cut to size sheet of aluminum and paint it black and zip tie to the frame.
Get a blank half circle rear chopper fender that I can modify and trim to how I like. Attach it with weld on fender struts and an L shaped bracket and weld it to the bottom of fender and swingarm to hold the fender in place. (so I will have a rear fender to protect me)
Remove front fender
add new handlebars.
Don't know if I wanna do Frisco bars, Streamliner bars, bootleggers or mini apes. I am kinda liking the Rabbit bars. I need some suggestion with these as well. So what do you guys think?
Again, I was just trying to get suggestions and have no intentions of doing a slop unsafe job. I do metal fabrication at work, but have never worked on a motorcycle before so I would really appreciate all the help you guys could give.
Thanks again guys

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Remove front fender
add new handlebars.
Don't know if I wanna do Frisco bars, Streamliner bars, bootleggers or mini apes. I am kinda liking the Rabbit bars. I need some suggestion with these as well. So what do you guys think?
Is that an invitation? Because your prior remark suggested you didn't want to hear anything more from me...

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your odvious knowledge of building choppers isn't needed. So other modifiers please chime in.

"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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Sure, I would really like to know what you think shadow. What kind of bars would you suggest?
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Admittedly I had to look up the lingo on some of those...I'm impartial to handlebars that can be adjusted within the risers so the bootleggers & streamliners are out since they're glorified "wishbone" style handlebars that bolt directly to the upper tree. Simply put if you don't like the way they feel, i.e. if you'd like them better tilted up or down, you're screwed.

I'm biased toward apehangers, but nothing too tall. I had to google "rabbit bars" and they appear to be what was once referred to "buckhorn" handlebars. Overall they're comfy but you have to get used to the "steering wheel" stance for your hands instead of the traditional "motorcycle stance".

I've done a few rear fender mods...first up is the novel idea of actually BOBBING the rear fender, granted I bobbed the front portion (near the engine) and rotating the fender forward as opposed to the traditional method of lopping off the back tip:



I wasn't wild about how it didn't quite radius-match the wheel so I swapped it for a 750 Aero front fender that I reversed for the rear wheel and bobbed the valanced portion off teh rear of what was once a front fender thus leaving the forward portion (ignore the sawed-off head pipes, I had intended to slip some mufflers onto them but I got rid of the bike long before it was finished):



I really liked the way this one turned out. The 750 Aero fender is made of ABS plastic so the added unsprung weight was minimal compared to mounting the shortened stock metal fender in the same fashion. You can see the piece I cut off that fender in the background:



If you can weld then section/shorten the stock fender:





Again, ignore the sawed-off head pipes as the exhaust system is far from being complete on this project.



All it needs is bondo/sanding/paint, although I may spring for a new set of fender supports and try something different for the mounting as I'm not wild about the way those lined up via sectioning. I'm still not committed to this, but I want to see how it looks finished with the replacement fender rails before I decide between this and the swingarm mounted Aero fender above.

You mentioned ditching the front fender. If you're fully committed to this, and you don't find the need for a fork brace, then get rid of those nubs on the lowers. The fork on the left side of the pic is intact, the one on the right has been smoothed down:



Polish or paint afterwards. Coincidentally this also allows for the 110 series front tires that have questionable/hit & miss clearance issues with the nubs & fender bolts, and no doubt a 120 series hoop if such a beast exists for these 18" wheels.



Other fun stuff that can be done...polishing the aluminum bits:


"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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(continued from above, one can only attach so many pics)

Drilling holes into what's left to lighten the load:



Admittedly I secretly covet the "cleaned up look" of front brake disc removal, but in no way shape or form do I want to be without a front brake. My current project resolves this by swapping a front end that already has both the front brake and a clean look, A.K.A. a CB250 Nighthawk front end sporting a drum. Sure, it'll never out-brake the OEM disc that came with the bike, but it will out-brake any front brake-less bike on the road by a country mile.


"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
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Shadow, I really appreciate the post above. You have some really cool stuff going on. I really like the AERO fender. It looks really smooth. You have given me some really good ideas. I think I am gonna go with some mini apes. Really like the polished idea as well. Thanks for the reply and your knowledge.
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Happy to oblige, and happier to find someone who appreciates safe & sane customizing.

One of the things I really dig about the Aero fender is the fork lower cut-outs line up nicely with the rear shocks:






"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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