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post #11 of 18 Old 06-15-2016, 03:59 PM
 
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you would still be leaning forward to reach low bars with forward foot controls since your butt won't be moving. IMO low bars and forward controls don't go together from an ergonomic point of view. You end up with a kinked back.

That's what I was afraid of. I like the way the bike looks with the drag bar. I will have to see how much discomfort I can put up with or else will have to look into some other bar options. I am trending towards form>function

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Low bars work best on conventional bikes with a higher seat and rear set pegs (under your hips) Your weight is on your hamstrings rather than your tailbone and your back is tipped forward a bit. This is a much more comfortable riding position for long riding periods IMO. Bikes with extremely low seats like the Rebel must have more forward pegs to avoid excessive kinking of the knees.

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Low bars work best on conventional bikes with a higher seat and rear set pegs (under your hips) Your weight is on your hamstrings rather than your tailbone and your back is tipped forward a bit. This is a much more comfortable riding position for long riding periods IMO. Bikes with extremely low seats like the Rebel must have more forward pegs to avoid excessive kinking of the knees.


So what configuration would you recommend for someone with long legs, with a low seat, a drag bar, and likes to ride sitting up (cruiser style)?


1) Install the peg extensions (everything else stays the same)
2) Remove the drag bar and go with something that is higher and curves back towards the driver (include the peg extension or not)
3) Get risers for the drag bar (include the peg extension or not)
4) Anything else?


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So what configuration would you recommend for someone with long legs, with a low seat, a drag bar, and likes to ride sitting up (cruiser style)?


1) Install the peg extensions (everything else stays the same)
2) Remove the drag bar and go with something that is higher and curves back towards the driver (include the peg extension or not)
3) Get risers for the drag bar (include the peg extension or not)
4) Anything else?


Thanks!
I can't really advise you on this, since other than the Rebel, I don't ride low cruiser style bikes. Here's what I would look like on my GS and on a Rebel with dragbars and forward controls. Which looks more comfortable to you?
If you go to this site, you can play around with different handlebar and footpeg positions on the Rebel or any bike.
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So what configuration would you recommend for someone with long legs, with a low seat, a drag bar, and likes to ride sitting up (cruiser style)?
Ditch the drag bar and look into ape hangers. Even a mini-ape at 6" gets you back into a more upright stance.

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I also have long arms and long legs. I also have different bikes with very different sitting positions.

I have a stock 250 Rebel which sits me upright with knees bent. It is stable and easy to ride. It puts you in position to handle almost anything that comes at you. It is easy to get up on the pegs and off the seat if required. I ride it on dirt and trails around the farm with no problems. It is not particularly comfortable on long rides, but not bad, and is especially good for city, stop and go, riding.

I also have a HD 883 Hugger (wife's bike). It has a low seat and more forward bars. My knees are more bent and I have to lean forward a little also. It is not comfortable to me and doesn't really make it more stable or place me in position to react more quickly than the Rebel. I would not buy this bike for me, but it is the position a lot of bobbers end up at. My wife loves it.

My personal bike, customized to fit me, is a 1998 HD Dyna Wide Glide. It has lowered progressive rear suspension which lowers seat height. It has the standard raked Wide Glide front end with skinny front tire. It has forward controls which allow me to stretch my legs out, but make it impossible to get up on the pegs to ride aggressively. I have relatively narrow, 9" pullback bars that both raise the bars and bring them back closer to me, and align my arms almost straight forward from my shoulders . This allows me to sit upright, or to lean back on a seat backrest, or on a custom made padded bag that sits on the passenger seat for trips, sort of like sitting in a recliner.

I would not recommend this riding position to any beginners, or anyone that ever needs to go on dirt or gravel. It also requires a little more attention, and ability, in stop and go urban traffic. It is less stable, and less able to react quickly to traffic or emergency situations. However, it is the most comfortable position for me, especially for long road trips.

I also find all kinds of alternative positions to move to while riding for long times in order to change the stress on joints and muscles. I move my feet to lots of places other than the normal peg position. I put the back of my heel on the forward foot pegs instead of the bottom of my boot, in order to stretch my legs a little further. I place them up on the turn signal mounts for even more stretch. I put them back on the passenger pegs and lean forward to relieve back stress. Some people used pegs on crash bars to accomplish the same things, but I just don't like how they look on the Wide Glide. All of these positions make you less stable and less able to react quickly, and should not be used in traffic or city driving. They do offer more comfort, and the ability to ride longer before having to stop for stretching on long highway trips, but at the price indicated above.

Be sure you are capable, and fully able to control your bike from these positions, and while moving to or from these alternative positions, before trying any of this. Again this is not for beginners, timid bikers, unstable bikers, or less confident riders. I am sure Mr. Duckster would have a cow if anyone in his Motorcycle Rider Safety Classes tried it. Oh well, that is why I not only own a Rebel, but I am a Rebel on a Harley. Each rider is different, with different ergonomics, and no one type, style, or position will fit everyone. You have to find the position that fits you, both your body type, and riding ability. Ride safe, and be comfortable.
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Regarding alternative riding positions, I'd agree that no matter how comfortable you find your bike, you need to move around a little every hour or 2 to keep your joints from seizing in position. ( the older you get the more this is required)
I slide forward and back a little on the seat, and periodically straghten out one leg at a time by taking the foot off the peg and extending it outward for a few seconds at a time. The arms I can extend and shake out behind me once in a while as well... (one at a time of course). I find if I do these "riding exercises" every hour or so I can ride comfortably to the next gas stop with my feet on the normal footpegs.

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@Duckster Thanks for the site link. Very helpful. Looks like the type of handle bar is my only real variable to play with to find my ideal comfort zone.

@Shadow Shack I will check out the mini-apes. Also, like the HANDLEBAR KEYSTONE 7/8 BK, which is similar.


Overall, I'm going to finish all the mods and see how I feel when all said and done. I use the bike for commuting (about 15 min each way) and some weekend fun (no more then 2 hrs at a time).

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