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post #71 of 88 Old 02-25-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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The 78 Twin star cover will fit the Rebel engine with no modificaton to the clutch.
Here is one installed on Sunny's bike in Thailand.

Hey Swamprabbit,
These covers seem to be readily available on ebay for the 1978 CM185. I was just hoping you could clarify is the 1978 Twinstar 185 the ONLY year that is a direct bolt on that doesn't require any clutch modification? Also, do you know if I will need to obtain the metal clutch cover spacer that fits between the engine case and the side cover or will my bike already have that piece in there? Sorry, if that seems like a dumb question but I haven't torn mine apart yet (2007) and I'm not sure If I will just need a new gasket or what. I'm asking because have a line on a cheap 1978 Twinstar 185 clutch side cover and the metal clutch cover spacer as well if I actually need it. I'm kind of leaning this route with the old school side cover after seeing the picture you posted. Might make the kickstarter mod a lot easier. Thank you for any advice or comments you can offer to help me out. Can't wait to add a kickstarter but I am not really wanting to do the O-ring style.
This is the current bike I'm working on and planning on 2 more that are waiting in the wings. Rebels are cheap in MT and have been fun winter wrenching projects for me.
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It is my understanding that the CM185 or 200 TwinStar cover will fit (along with the kick pedal) but you'll have to also swap the clutch basket over as well.

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If you're worried about making the modifications with minimal tools, I did mine with a drill press and a dremel. http://www.hondarebelforum.com/f18/k...0-a-19149.html

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If you're worried about making the modifications with minimal tools, I did mine with a drill press and a dremel. http://www.hondarebelforum.com/f18/k...0-a-19149.html
Thanks RebelRider.Mike. I did read your thread. I sent a message to Old School but haven't heard back if he is still offering his milling services I would much rather do the needle bearing and seal route. My bike is a 2007 with only 1300 miles. I am a little picky and like my bike clean and free of leaks. The o-ring option concerns me a little and I don't want to have to be removing that cover on a regular basis to change out an o-ring that may or may not be leaking all over. Not suggesting that they will but I'm just more comfortable with the actual oil seal option. I have a neighbor who is an experienced machinist who might be able to pull it off with the pictures and parts identified by old school but it would be nice to just send it off and have it done right on this one. Maybe I will get frisky and try out your method on the 2005 build that I am getting ready to start. Pretty much done with my '07. This kick start mod is just something different. The bike didn't really turn out like I wanted. I'm trying to come up with a special paint idea for the tank. The bike just doesn't really stand out for me. Hoping the '05 goes better. In any case, a kickstarter on these is very cool and will generate a lot of action. I have a '75 Honda CL360 Scrambler and I love the kickstarter. It has an electric starter but I don't think I've ever used it!!!!





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I really like that 360, and it's ORANGE too.

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I really like that 360, and it's ORANGE too.
Thanks. It was truly a good find. I plucked it out of a private collection from a guy with about 400 machines all stored inside. This one was way in the back and had not seen the light of day for about 15 years. It had fortunately been stored properly. You can definitely see some of the rebel evolution in the lines of the CL. The clutch cover certainly resembles the CM185, 200 bikes very closely, to get back on track with this thread.

I still haven't heard back from messages I sent to Old School and Swamprabbit though... Hopefully they tune in at some point.

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The 78 Twin star cover will fit the Rebel engine with no modificaton to the clutch.
Here is one installed on Sunny's bike in Thailand.

Very sorry to thread jack but omfg that is the sickest rebel ive ever seen! any chance you have a link to more pics of it? thanks! And great work Old School i wish i had the guts to pull of that coversion.
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I read another forum link about this mod somewhere and someone claimed they used an xr100 kick shaft assembly for this mod. Do you think those might work? They are super cheap and readily available. From what I can see of the ones available on ebay the only part missing is the #5 part on the parts diagram shown earlier (The first piece to drop in on the engine case side). Just curious. If these can work it could really make this mod a lot cheaper and easier for folks to do this mod. I want to send you my sidecover for machining and I would be willing to buy one of these XR assemblies and send it with my cover so you could see if you can make them work. I also found a CM185 shaft assembly as well. Not sure if that one will work either or does it have to be the CM200? Just wanting to find a cheaper alternative for my future builds. I have 3 rebel bobbers on the assembly line right now. Really looking forward to having the kickstart mod done. Thanks.
Hoping to bump this back to the top of the forum to catch the attention of Old School in case he is still willing to do the machine work for me on the kick start mod. Anybody know if he is still around or how to get in touch with him?
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best way to get in touch is by quoting (as you did)


Old School hasn't been here since 7/24/16 but maybe he will respond to the quote

There are others here who have done the kickstart mod - @SWAMPRABBIT
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Hoping to bump this back to the top of the forum to catch the attention of Old School in case he is still willing to do the machine work for me on the kick start mod. Anybody know if he is still around or how to get in touch with him?
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