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post #1 of 38 Old 06-23-2019, 07:05 AM Thread Starter
 
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Seeking advise on my Rebel situation

I've posted here about my 1986 Rebel issues. I was considering replacing my 250 Rebel with a larger cruiser, after looking at my financial situation it may not be feasible for me to come up with the minimum of $2000 to replace it with a larger cruiser. So I am considering other option to keep and repair/have repaired the issues to keep my current Rebel. Here are the issues:

1) To broken exhaust studs on the left side cylinder, both studs broke due to the previous owners not installing the correct exhaust collar between the pipe and the brass gasket and cylinder head. The exhaust pipe rattled and vibrated so much it broke off.
So here are the options I see to correct this:

a) Buy a used cylinder head for somewhere around $200,a new exhaust system probably one of the Chinese knockoff systems seen on eBay. and all the gaskets needed to swap heads. I don't really have the time to tackle this project myself. I need this to commute to work 5 days a week, so I would more than likely pay a shop to do the work, while I drive around in a rental car. I figure it would take a week or so.

b) Attempt to do the work myself, using some vacation time to try to complete the job.

2) The carb is not an original honda carb, it is a cheap Chinese dual carb setup as seen on eBay and Amazon, I would like to go back to the original type of Honda carb, that would require buying an original intake and carb that would probably need rebuilding. The carb that is on it now has issues, it cuts out every so often.

3) Electrical wiring issues, the turn signals work intermittently, I figure there are some bad wires somewhere, maybe a short, but probably not because it doesn't blow out fuses.

4) There is no drive chain guard, I'm sure I could find a replacement on eBay.

5) Cosmetic issues, a couple of minor dents in the gas tank, nothing a little filler and rattle can can't fix. The wheels are ugly, chrome plating is rusting, again nothing a rattle can can't fix. The cosmetics are the least of my concerns.

6) Handle bars are ugly and not original cruiser style bars. Easy enough to find some better bars.

Another option, probably a little more expensive than working the issue out on the current Rebel, is to try to find another Rebel, either first gen or probably more likely a second gen. They can be had for between $1200 and $1500 locally.

Of all the options above I think my best bet is to buy all the needed parts myself, drop the bike and parts off at a shop and have them do all the mechanical work to my little '86 Rebel 250, I think even with the rental car for a week it will still be less than buying another bike, even cheaper than buying another Rebel.

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post #2 of 38 Old 06-23-2019, 09:48 AM
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Another option would be to buy a whole motor for $500 - $600 and do the swap yourself. Have you called Jack's rebel Warehouse in Eustis FL to ask their advice and what they would have for parts?

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Here's a used first gen engine with good compression on ebay. Will accept offers. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-86-Hon...cAAOSwEYJc-n-j

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Here's a used first gen engine with good compression on ebay. Will accept offers. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-86-Hon...cAAOSwEYJc-n-j
Hey Flitecontrol, thanks for the idea and the link, I offered him $300. Honestly I'm not sure about my abilities to swap an engine but this seems like it might be a good way to resolve some of my issues with the Rebel, it is pictured with an original intake as well, so I can find a carb and go back to original set up.
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Another option would be to buy a whole motor for $500 - $600 and do the swap yourself. Have you called Jack's rebel Warehouse in Eustis FL to ask their advice and what they would have for parts?
No I haven't called Jack yet, but I did put in an offer on the eBay engine that Flitecontrol posted a link for. If that doesn't work out I'll contact Jack, he has helped me before with a couple of parts.
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Hey Flitecontrol, thanks for the idea and the link, I offered him $300. Honestly I'm not sure about my abilities to swap an engine but this seems like it might be a good way to resolve some of my issues with the Rebel, it is pictured with an original intake as well, so I can find a carb and go back to original set up.
Did you notice that engine has a broke off exhaust stud?

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Did you notice that engine has a broke off exhaust stud?
Damn I didn't see it until I just looked at it again and enlarged the picture, well I guess I can hope he doesn't accept my offer then. That engine has the same issue mine has, and it looks like it is broken almost identically to the way mine are broken, flush or just below the surface. Must be a pretty common problem with these 250 engines.
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If you get the engine, take it to a machine shop and have them pull out the broken stud.

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2) The carb is not an original honda carb, it is a cheap Chinese dual carb setup as seen on eBay and Amazon, I would like to go back to the original type of Honda carb, that would require buying an original intake and carb that would probably need rebuilding. The carb that is on it now has issues, it cuts out every so often.
If you find one listed for a late model (2016 being the final year) odds are good that it won't need cleaning/rebuilding.

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4) There is no drive chain guard, I'm sure I could find a replacement on eBay.
I may have a partial guard, meaning the curved portion was cut off the back leaving just the straight portion. I can't recall if I left it on the bike I gave to a friend in need a few years ago so I'll have to dive into the Great Heap.

Pic of the guard on the bike before it was donated:




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Another option, probably a little more expensive than working the issue out on the current Rebel, is to try to find another Rebel, either first gen or probably more likely a second gen. They can be had for between $1200 and $1500 locally.

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I was considering replacing my 250 Rebel with a larger cruiser, after looking at my financial situation it may not be feasible for me to come up with the minimum of $2000 to replace it with a larger cruiser.
I see a lot of Gen-1 600 Shadows in that price range out here. Case in point...

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/mcy/...896639638.html

...which is exactly how one of mine looked like ever so briefly.


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Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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