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post #21 of 59 Old 07-24-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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I have to disagree with the statement that "the best place to shift is at those marks." Those are maximum shift speeds. Shifting strictly by the marks, the bike would be in fourth gear from 55 to 70 mph, and fifth wouldn't be needed until above 70 mph.
I don't mean for every day riding. I mean for absolute best acceleration.




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I have to disagree with the statement that "the best place to shift is at those marks." Those are maximum shift speeds. Shifting strictly by the marks, the bike would be in fourth gear from 55 to 70 mph, and fifth wouldn't be needed until above 70 mph.
I agree. But for clarity sake, I would say that the marks on the speedometer indicate the highest speed at which you should travel in the indicated gear, rather than shift speeds.

In other words, the "5" on the speedometer isn't indicating the max speed to shift into 5th gear, it's showing max recommended/anticipated speed in that gear.

I have often thought Honda mixed this up a bit, and should have shown a "2" where the "1" is, a "3" where the "4" is, and so on. I've owned standard shift cars that did not have tachs, and they had shift markings like this. (No "1" is used because everyone knows you start out in 1st gear.) That way Honda would have been showing recommended "shift points" for respective gears, which is what most people assume the numbers represent.

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Hi all, just curious how many of you actually use your Rebel as your primary bike to cruise...
My Shadow's fuel pump caught fire just after Thanksgiving 2017. I had it rebuilt right away while waiting for the state of Nevada to get off their collective asses and send me a salvage title. 15 months and six attempts later, naturally my plate expired and without the title and safety inspection, it sat. Suffice it to say it needs some major carb work now, seeing as it sat since June of last year with me being naive enough to believe I'd have a title before the ethanol gas rotted.

Woulda shoulda coulda...

Anyways since then the Rebel has been my primary ride. As a result, it just got a fresh pair of tires over the weekend.

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I've had mine about a month, and half of that was how long it took me to realize I needed a bike with more power.... I'm in 3rd gear in my neighborhood doing 20. City streets I'm in 4th just to get to to the speed limit of 45.
Is there something wrong with your fifth gear? Because that works just fine at 31-35mph with decent roll on response on a flat road. Check your owners manual to verify this claim.

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On the highway it just SCREAMS at top speed which still is barely the speed limit. Sound like it's turning 9000 RPM and it's got no more to give.
Well, 9000RPM is about where it tops out. Which leaves the question, just how fast is your top speed if you're "barely doing the speed limit"? I only ask as our Rebel carts my 240 pound ass up to the end of the speedo dial.


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9,000 rpm does equate to right at 83 mph (right on what your speedo is showing). If your Rebel can do 83 mph on flat level ground with stock gearing, that is a top running Rebel. Not doubting it, just saying, if so, your Rebel is on it's "A Game."


I haven't top ended mine yet. I need to find some flat level ground so I can do some "research" when I get the AFR gauge up and running and then start tuning. I'm thinking of 2 tests. 1) A timed 5th gear 50 - 70 mph pull, before and after tuning. And 2) top speed, before and after tuning. Gonna need a loooooooooong flat stretch for this. Don't know any that are long enough around here.




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I have often thought Honda mixed this up a bit, and should have shown a "2" where the "1" is, a "3" where the "4" is, and so on. I've owned standard shift cars that did not have tachs, and they had shift markings like this. (No "1" is used because everyone knows you start out in 1st gear.) That way Honda would have been showing recommended "shift points" for respective gears, which is what most people assume the numbers represent.
Even if the numbers were changed for clarity, they still wouldn't be recommended shift points. They are maximum shift points.

I learned to shift manual transmissions by the sound of the engine, not a speedometer or tachometer. I didn't even know what the Rebel's red speedo lines were for until someone brought it up on this forum years ago. Aside from the lowered fuel economy and (to me) horrific noise associated with winding the engine up to the maximum shift points every time, why would anyone want to do this on a regular basis?

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I learned to shift manual transmissions by the sound of the engine, not a speedometer or tachometer. I didn't even know what the Rebel's red speedo lines were for until someone brought it up on this forum years ago. Aside from the lowered fuel economy and (to me) horrific noise associated with winding the engine up to the maximum shift points every time, why would anyone want to do this on a regular basis?
My first bike was a 2-stroke, I just wound it up until it wouldn't go any faster, then changed gear! Eventually I learned to listen/feel and gauge it from there.

The only time I wind the engine up as described (and I'm not looking down at the speedo) is when I pull onto the highway and want to get to 55 quickly. When I'm going into 4th, that's when I'm glancing at the speedo and then I'll change up to 5th.

My daily commute I'm in 2nd,3rd,4th gear 25-35mph. The Rebel has plenty of torque at the low end for my taste.

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9,000 rpm does equate to right at 83 mph (right on what your speedo is showing). If your Rebel can do 83 mph on flat level ground with stock gearing, that is a top running Rebel. Not doubting it, just saying, if so, your Rebel is on it's "A Game."
One of the inherent beauties of maintaining a stock bike.

FWIW that aforementioned Shadow is also in that "A Game" camp. Or was, I really need to get that back on the road soon.

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MY Rebel buzzes god awful in the pegs and the handlebars after 45 mph. It took me forever to find the problem. A previous owner dropped it and broke the right side muffler clean off the pipe at the join. Someone tried to weld it, but the weld looks like they went too fast and it broke away from the muffler. So it's just hanging from the mount.

Check the mufflers to see if they are broken. That might be the source of your buzz. Checking the turning signals for damage is also an indicator its been dropped.

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I found the culprit today I believe. I kept hearing it from the left handlebar, and if I tightened my left hand around the grip HARD it almost totally went away. When I revved it up to hear the buzzing and STUCK MY FINGER IN THE HOLE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HANDLEBAR, IT STOPPED. HUH.... Don't see anything in there I can tighten so I'm not sure what to do.
I'm sure mine has been dropped... No damage visible other than the two famous "rebel dents", one on each side of the tank. I have a suspicion mine was one of the MSF training bikes....

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Sounds like the handlebar end weight is missing. Parts 6 and 17. https://www.cheapcycleparts.com/oemp...0323/handlebar

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