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post #31 of 412 Old 11-20-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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Hey guys, I'm still around...

I don't know, I kinda like the bike. Is it a Rebel, well IMO yeah just an updated model. For example, a 1960 Impala didn't look anything like a 1970 Impala.

Even after buying the VLX I still liked to ride the Rebel as it is a blast to throw around on curvy roads. I'm going to have to go ride one and see if it is still that kind of bike, light and nimble.

For me, the jury is still out on the fat front tire. If I were to own one at least the rear fender would have to be painted to match the tank. Probably the side covers too. I agree, there is too much black... Hey Honda, bring back the blue glint metallic paint!


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I kinda like the 500. I don't like the played out everything black approach, but it's livable. My top two complaints are that it has lost the classic tank over the backbone look for a Ducati Monster/Harley-Davidson V-Rod tank on frame look. And the square radiator protruding from the smooth lines behind the wheel is quite the eyesore.
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On a side note: I think part of the Rebel greatness is the 360 degree crankshaft that make it run like a triumph, rather than the 180 degree like a CB, or an 1100 sabre. Another item gone forever.
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For what it's worth, this is not what I expected in the 'next generation' of the Honda Rebel line.

I was excited when I read the headline last week and when I clicked on it I was shocked. Honda Rebel is not what I think of when I see it. Not interested at all.

Would have loved to see a 350 and a 650 Honda Rebel (with custom upgrades/accessories/add-ons) designed with the original concept of the cruiser style in mind, kinda in the same way they 'honored' the chopper when making the fury. I would think somethinkg like bobber, bagger, and touring version would be cool.

Oh well, we'll see.

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The engine can stay blacked out though, it is U-G-L-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y no wonder it gets covered with fairing on the CB siblings.
Here's where my utilitarian sensibilities part ways with your more esthetic viewpoint, because I see engines as strictly an industrial object that looks like it does because of what it is. Engine designers don't start with a beautiful thing and then try to make it work as an engine. Oh sure, you can provide nice finishing on the castings (I prefer silver powder coat to black ), but once you have the essentials laid out, its just a matter of building it neatly and efficiently, providing a high quality finish as befits something that is always on display, and you have the finished engine. Going beyond that (to put lipstick on the pig) by adding cosmetic extras like elaborate and redundant chrome covers, fake non functional cooling fins where none are needed, dummy carburetors to disguise throttle bodies etc. just adds weight and bulk to satisfy someone's irrelevant idea of how an engine should look. I can think of quite a few cruiser engines over the last 10 or 15 years that were far too fat and "pretty" for my spartan tastes.
That's not to say that an engine can't incorporate some style and quality into the basic design. Take a look at the 1968 Bonneville 650.. maybe the most beautiful motorcycle ever to my eye.


The engine is beautifully done in polished alloy and black paint, but everything you see is functional and necessary, and nothing was tacked on, covered up or disguised as something it isn't.
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It's not a great rendering but look what a small splash of color does for the bike:

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Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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UUUGGGLLLYYY!!!!! And not a REBEL.

Other than that, time will tell, but it won't be something that I would ever even test ride if offered.

The biggest slap in the face to me is that they released it on my birthday.

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What makes a VW Beetle... a Beetle... is the shape. For 70 years they have pretty much looked the same.

When they came out with the new CC model, if they would have called that the "New Beetle", that would've been just silly.

The Rebel, with mostly the same look, has been around for 30+ years. They could have just re-made the 450, added a few upgrade/improvements, and it'll still be a Rebel... and a pretty cool bike.

I realize that our Rebel can't last forever.
I just wish that they would've given it the respect that it deserves ( 30+ years ) and retired the Rebel name.

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It's not a great rendering but look what a small splash of color does for the bike:

I'm wondering why they pre-dented the gas tanks.

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I'm wondering why they pre-dented the gas tanks.
To try and make it look like a real rebel
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