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post #21 of 412 Old 11-19-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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it makes me wonder if in 30 years time people will still be caring for there (new version) rebel or finding less cared for ones and bobbing them. some how i doubt it. its like watching a remake of your favourite movie, yes its got all the special effects but is it the same, well no, not in my opinion
More power, More Modern, More Durable (water cooled 500 cc twin) ,better looking, better brakes, better sound.. Whats not to like? Just a lot more rebellious than the previous old school, out dated design. ABS, better tires, better handling, blacked out and ready for the future.

The Rebel needed a face lift. Should out perform the 250 in every category.

When the price drops on the older versions I will buy a few, just to remember the past and to take me through the future and beyond..

The new ones are going to be out of my budgeted price range for a decade or so.
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Looks like they both come with 6 speeds as well.


Sorry though, the look is not my cup of tea. After 4 years of red and black, I was hoping for a new color choice.


I'm glad I got my 97 in yellow.
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More power, More Modern, More Durable (water cooled 500 cc twin) ,better looking, better brakes, better sound.. Whats not to like? Just a lot more rebellious than the previous old school, out dated design. ABS, better tires, better handling, blacked out and ready for the future.

The Rebel needed a face lift. Should out perform the 250 in every category.

When the price drops on the older versions I will buy a few, just to remember the past and to take me through the future and beyond..

The new ones are going to be out of my budgeted price range for a decade or so.
I can't argue any of this...except "better looking". Not to so many of us that like the classic lines of the Rebel.

They would have had me buying a 500 if all the mechanical changes were made (overdue, as you said) but put into a "real" Rebel...i.e., a modernized version of the old 450. I would have bought it in a second. But as it is now, it's just another "mech-warrior" looking bike in a cruiser package.

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More power, More Modern, More Durable (water cooled 500 cc twin) ,better looking, better brakes, better sound.. Whats not to like? Just a lot more rebellious than the previous old school, out dated design. ABS, better tires, better handling, blacked out and ready for the future.

The Rebel needed a face lift. Should out perform the 250 in every category.

When the price drops on the older versions I will buy a few, just to remember the past and to take me through the future and beyond..

The new ones are going to be out of my budgeted price range for a decade or so.
If that's what you always wanted, those bikes were always out there to buy. Just under a different brand and name.
Why take away the Rebel for those that liked that kind of bike?

The new Rebel is nothing new. It's just like a dozen other bikes, but has the Rebel name.

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it makes me wonder if in 30 years time people will still be caring for there (new version) rebel or finding less cared for ones and bobbing them. some how i doubt it. its like watching a remake of your favourite movie, yes its got all the special effects but is it the same, well no, not in my opinion
Riders that grow up with modern motorcycles will be just as nostalgic for them in 30 years as older riders are for the bikes of the 70's and 80's. Having ridden many of each over the years, I like the modern ones better because they are fast and reliable, and need less routine maintenance.
I can't imagine how anyone could tie the concept of "bobbing" to a modern standard motorcycle. Everything on them is minimal and lightweight to begin with, unlike the old war surplus Harleys and Indians.
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More power, More Modern, More Durable (water cooled 500 cc twin) ,better looking, better brakes, better sound.. Whats not to like? Just a lot more rebellious than the previous old school, out dated design.
There's nothing "rebellious" about the visual appeal, it looks just like all the other blacked out cruisers out there: Yamaha Bolt, Vulcan S, Harley Street, etc etc etc. That's what I dislike about it. That, and slapping a completely unrelated name on it as a marketing gimmick.

"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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and there is the rub, as we call it. if honda would have said we have a replacement to the rebel and we are calling it blah blah we would have all said there is the end of an era,but to call it a rebel is not right for the old school amongst us, its a new bike and deserves a new name not the name that has been synonymous with the multitude of years of enjoyment that many have had from what has been a humble offering from honda that has taken the form of a 125 in the Uk and Europe and the 250 in the US . call it some thing new the "rebel" means more to some of us then a change in mechanics
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder..
in this beholders eyes 2017 Rebel looks like a POS.. imho.. for what that's worth.

Than there is that tiny fuel tank.. a stop at every 3rd gas station..
There won't be anyone asking what year it is while filling up,
unlike the many who comment on my 87 and it's classic design..

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I wouldn't sweat the 3 gallon tank, like the 600 Shadow it ought to get decent enough fuel economy to make that go a ways (more so with less displacement). However the 10.7:1 compression ratio hints at mandating higher octane fuel...any CB500 owners here that can comment on that end?

408 pounds wet is a decent weight for a cruiser. I would prefer some color options beyond just the tank, along with some chrome options to boot. Or at the very least, anodized OTHER color options.

The engine can stay blacked out though, it is U-G-L-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y no wonder it gets covered with fairing on the CB siblings.


"Ride Safe, Chop Safer" Motorcycles are not unsafe. However; they are extremely unforgiving of inattention, incompetence, ignorance, and stupidity.
Dismantling, sawzalling, and rattle canning does not make a bobber.
Those are STEPS toward customizing, not customizing unto itself.
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I like the old Rebel. I love the new Rebel.
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