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post #1 of 6 Old 05-31-2019, 12:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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Bully Cagers Proven

This research was done for bicycles, but I find this information very disturbing.

When I was a cyclist, I had many a glass beer bottle chucked at me. I even once had to bunny hop into a ditch when some jerks in a dump truck tried to run me off the road. I flipped them the bird as I kept on riding in the ditch.

I've seen YouTube video of riders being bullied so it happens to all.

There is something that triggers these rager cagers. We really need to ride with the mindset that we are ambassadors. I know it's frustrating to watch cyclists of all tribes make more progress than you in rush hour traffic.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/q...an-survey-says



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Researchers said this perspective around dehumanization is directly linked to the way drivers behave toward cyclists. According to the study, 17 percent of respondents self-reported that they had used their car to deliberately block a cyclist, 11 percent said that they had driven close to a cyclist on purpose, and 9 percent that they deliberately cut off a cyclist. These were considered aggressive behaviors, rather than just harrassment like yelling.
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In the Queensland study, one finding also suggests that, as more cities push and encourage people to bike, driversí aggressive behavior could actually worsen with frequency of exposure. Drivers who drove by cyclists at least once a week self-reported four times more aggressive behavior toward them compared to drivers who drove past cyclists less frequently.
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post #2 of 6 Old 05-31-2019, 03:26 PM
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Jerks and idiots will act like jerks and idiots, especially if they think the object of their abuse can't retaliate, which cyclists pretty much cannot and riders should not, do. Anyone on two, or even three wheels needs to keep their temper under control when dealing with cagers, no matter the provocation. A rider that takes on a cage is going to loose about 99.99% of the time - it's a matter of physics. Bigger vehicle trumps smaller one in any collision, and riders are exposed while cagers travel in a protective cocoon.

One thing I believe everyone has experienced is a vehicle following too closely. I found this tip at an online motorcycle safety site. Extend the left hand down, palm backward, and slowly make a front to rear sweeping motion, as if sweeping the vehicle back. In my experience, the majority of the time, the cager understands and backs off. If they do, give them a thumbs up "thank you". If they don't, when it is safe to do so, pull over and let them pass. I had one guy return the thumbs up gesture when I turned onto another street and he passed. Definitly a learning moment for both of us.

On those occasions where my mindset was correct, in a non-confrontational way, I have talked with offending cagers who didn't respond to the gesture. The first was a lady that was following way too close, and didn't pick up on my hand signal. I followed her into a parking lot and said, from a distance, "Excuse me mamm, do you have a minute?" She responded in the affirmative, so I explained what the gesture meant, and told her that riders can go down without warning on loose gravel, sand, and other surfaces that aren't a problem for motorists. She thanked me, and another cager was educated. The second was a man, and the only available parking space was pretty close to his vehicle. When I spoke to him, he was visibly shaking (all bikers are scary myth). I gave him the same spiel as the lady, and, obviously relieved, he also thanked me.

It's far better to build bridges to the uneducated than it is to burn them.

There was one guy who I believe understood the gesture, but didn't give a rip. After giving it twice, he pulled even closer to me. So I pulled off the road, told him what I thought of him (to myself), and let him pass. As I said earlier, jerks and idiots will behave one way. Getting visibly upset or showing the rigid digit, only lets them know they have succeeded in yanking your chain, and does nothing to help educate the ignorant.

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It's far better to build bridges to the uneducated than it is to burn them.
Yep, I'd say 95% of these cagers are just uneducated or distracted. Road rage can get one shot even in the mightiest cage.

I was recently in a video chat with my UK friend, a Honda man(250cc/600cc). He showed me their driving test for a cage license. It was quite difficult and even had considerable focus on testing the potential cager's knowledge of driving safely along with two-wheeled transportation on the road. They mentioned many of the things we fear from cagers.

I'm going to compare it to my State's written cage test as I have to retake it alongside the motorcycle test to get my motorcycle learner's endorsement.

They don't understand the challenges of riding on two wheels, nor will they ever know the freedom. Some sociopaths cage bully simply because we are vulnerable.
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post #4 of 6 Old 05-31-2019, 06:40 PM
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While you're at it, look up the SMIDSY maneuver/weave. Believe it was developed in the UK.

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Since it stands for "Sorry mate, I didn't see you.", I'd wager it was. Thanks man, another one in my bucket list.

I used to own an NA Miata cage. On occasion, people in full sized pickup trucks would road bully me. I remember the look in one of their eyes. It was pure rage. I think it comes down to being vulnerable and having powers they don't have. You needed a rider's mindset in traffic with that Miata too. I used to use lane position though only had 1.5 slots.

My British friend also told me he uses his 250cc way more often than his 600cc.

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The maneuver is particularly helpful at night, when the motorcycle headlight may be aligned with light on the the cage behind it. A driver looking to pull out may not realize that there are two approaching vehicles and the bike is closer than the car behind it. Doing the SMIDSY weave lets folks know that there is a motorcycle (or drunk driver!) approaching, and they want to avoid both.

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