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post #1 of 16 Old 02-15-2017, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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so i have a 250 86 honda rebel. I rode it about a week ago.Its my daily driver so its not neglected, I have a problem starting it. I know my battery is good went to the autopart store to make sure, checked all my wires everthing seems to be in place i have full electric, headlights, brakelights etc. but when i used to start it i could always hear the starter relay when i first turned my ignition key. now nothing happens it dosint do anything at all. no clicking from it or nothing, so i got a new starter realy/ solenoid whatever you call it between the two and still nothing. im so lost ive googled everything i could and looked on the form as well. im stumped so if someones get any hints or ideas of what it is please let me know!
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post #2 of 16 Old 02-15-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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Sounds like a relay wiring problem, or possibly the starter pushbutton switch.

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Sounds like a relay wiring problem, or possibly the starter pushbutton switch.
when I push the button my lights turn of and on like they normally would when you start the bike so I feel like it can't be that but I could be completely wrong
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When you push that button you break the circuit to your lights and make the circuit to the start relay.. If there's a problem with the switch it will be with the making part.

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Check for voltage TO the relay when you push the starter button. You should get 12V. If not, you will have to start backtracking to find the open circuit. I don't have a Rebel wiring schematic, so I don't know the order in which to check things. There are a lot of parts involved. There is the ignition switch itself, the starter button, the kill switch, the sidestand nanny switch, and the clutch nanny switch that current has to make it's way through before it reaches the starter relay. You can test the relay and starter by running fused jumper wires directly from the battery to where the 2 small wires connect to the relay (only the positive wire needs to be fused. This is just in the unlikely event the relay is shorted, to prevent setting the jumper wires on fire) The relay should click and the starter should turn over. Because this bypasses all the safety switches, make absolutely sure the bike is in neutral before doing it.
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could be several things.



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When you push that button you break the circuit to your lights and make the circuit to the start relay.. If there's a problem with the switch it will be with the making part.
I got it to start with direct contact to the solenoid so that means it's bad wiring to the button? Or where
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You have 12 volts to the button or the headlight would not work.

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You have 12 volts to the button or the headlight would not work.
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head light is supplied via 7A fused circuit when start button not engaged
Brown/Red connecting to Blue/White

upon depressing starter button circuit is powered through 15A Main fuse..
Yellow/Red connecting to Black

Check your main 15 amp fuse nah fuse can't be it.. Duh

The more I go over the wiring I keep coming back to starter switch or associated wiring
assuming your pulling clutch lever and have in neutral to assure good solenoid ground.
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I stand corrected. The starter button is really 2 separate switches (4 poles) with 2 separate 12 volt sources that operate together. The black wire at the starter switch is 12 volts from the main fuse by way of the ignition switch and provides power to the start relay coil.

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