labeledbass

Hey there, I've been wondering something about my bike since I bought it 2 months ago and maybe someone here will know the answer.

I have a 99 Rebel, I've noticed there is different model numbers depending on the year but generally I see CMX250C, mine states CMX250C2. Is there really much difference with the "2" added at the end? Does it have something to do with emissions that started in 99? I've looked around and can't find any answers online, CMS and bandit have their own listing for CMX250C2 parts but this is just puzzling me - Thanks in advance, this has been bothering me for a while

Thanks!

~ Edward

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EstyinTX

Is your bike two colors? Maybe the 2 is for the color? Check this website:

http://www.pillarcom.com/index.php?page=29

Ok, that's not it, I just looked and 97 had two colors and they don't have the 2. Heh, I'm unemployed and bored, thanks for giving me something to do today besides clean house LOL!

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JunkyardDog

Mystery solved. The "C2" designation does indeed refer to CA emissions, in the form of an evap emissions system. I recommend removing and throwing it away asap, if it is still there. Not only does it add unnecessary clutter to the bike, but it can cause hard starting and rough running if you overfill the gas tank. And it serves absolutely no useful purpose. I have always believed gas tanks should be vented directly to the atmosphere. All mine are. Jerry.

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labeledbass

Ok, thanks guys - yeah I thought it has something to do with the emissions just like when OBDII took over in 96 with cars. When you state to remove the evap what are speaking of? I do have a hose running from under my tank (had to disconnect it when I removed my tank for my valve adjustment), it runs straight down to a "T" fixture, then it goes straight down. The other outlet on the "T" seems to be open, let me check real quick - ok the other outlet on the "T" looks to be open, might even need some cleaning after closer inspection but I can assure you nothing plugs into it, no nipple for a hose so it apparently has 2 vents, the one on the "T" and the one that runs straight to the ground (which is open). I would assume this system is vented naturally but the "T" may create some kind of vacuum -

With the above information what do you suggest if anything? I do need to clean the break off of the "T", maybe even clean the entire line for slug, debris - I understand that this is what helps stabilize the pressure in the tank so the fuel reaches the carb.

Thanks in advance - anyone else have an idea please chime in!

Thanks! ~ Edward

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labeledbass

BTW - BikeBandit states the "T" is a "joint / air filter", it does show any kind of element just a hole. I dunno, baffled, I can run it without and see if the idle (which isn't perfect, close but not perfect) improves. But again, if this does have anything to do with the "2" evap control please let me know.

Thanks!

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labeledbass

That "T" can't be the difference between the 1996 Honda CMX250C REBEL and the 1999 Honda CMX250C2 REBEL because they both have the "T", hmmm... either I'm looking in the wrong place or the 2 stands for something different.

Any ideas???

Thanks in advance guys!

~ Edward

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labeledbass

I think I found my answer -

CMX250C2 Rebel:
1999: Candy Glory Red/Black

Instead of Black -

Anyone else know of a difference?

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cagie

No, it's not a color code. I think it is a second run for the year. Honda miscalculated the production run that year. 96 and 97 were to test the market and reintroduce the Rebel. The 99 model year wasn't supposed to be that big, but IIRC, the MSF was given a grant to purchase Rebels in larger numbers and Honda was caught short.

I could be totally off, but that's the story as I remember it. There was another year that happened as well, just can't remember when.

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JunkyardDog

Ok, I guess I'm wrong. I checked both '99 models at bikebandit, and they both show the evap emissions system. I also checked my '04, and it shows it too, but mine doesn't have it. I would have found and removed it while I was removing a few other unnecessary things if it had been there. You can go to www.bikebandit.com, check either '99 model, and look at the diagram of the evap cannister. It's in it's own little square. If your bike has one of these things, it's best to remove it. If it doesn't, you're ok.


I also removed the "T" fittings from my bike, and ran totally separate lines for everything. I had a bunch of extra hose laying around from having removed the emissions crap from so many other bikes. IMO, the simpler the better. If everything is separate, it is a lot easier to work on. Jerry.

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Fridgitator

Before removing emissions components, it's a good idea to check what your state standards are. Even if you don't live in California, some states that have emissions standards require that motor vehicles so equipped are not altered to defeat them.

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