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12-24-2009, 12:01 AM
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true frisco look would be moving the fill hole to the apex of the tank and dropping the petcock down...
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12-24-2009, 12:16 AM
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Yep, that's a pallet jack. We have one at work. A non motorized one. We also have a large forklift, that I have picked up and moved cars with.
With the tank at that angle, and without relocating the petcock, you are only going to be able to use half the gas in the tank.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the need to move the filler as well. That's a lot of work unless you REALLY like the look. Jerry.
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12-24-2009, 02:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkyardDog
With the tank at that angle, and without relocating the petcock, you are only going to be able to use half the gas in the tank.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the need to move the filler as well.
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Well, that brings up the ONLY benefit I can think of for front-only lowering LOL
Which certainly doesn't compensate for the front-only lowering safety issue I mentioned earlier.
(is there an actual emoticon for LOL ? < colon LOL colon > only brings up a red X...)
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12-24-2009, 09:29 AM
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Thanks for the tips guys. Yes its a pallet jack. Was just put there to get it out the way. Lol. The tank will be widen on the tunnel to drop down on the front. I'm not looking to go real far or fast since its only a 250. The rear fender is a rear fender for our hardknocks. You can see them at oldschoolhardknock. Same size rear tire. Just trying to figure how I'm gonna attach it. Also yes clip ons are on the way. Custom battery/electronics box coming soon too.
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12-24-2009, 09:34 AM
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I dont think that 1 1/2" drop is gonna be all that much of an effect on trail. Do a little measuring and plug yer numbers into this calculator. It'll tell ya what your trail is.
Go here:
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/advchoppercalc.html
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12-24-2009, 09:36 AM
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Cool thanks
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12-24-2009, 10:07 PM
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Just keep in mind the trail issue isn't the big concern here...it's the leaned forward stance and resulting braking fiasco.
And that online calculator --- it will give you the same stock trail regardless of what you enter for the fork length. Seriously, try it...whether you enter 90 inch forks or 15 inch forks, the "stock trail" will still be the same. So remember, if your stock trail comes up as anything but 4.3 inches on that calc (well, it can be a little off, say no more than a tenth each way, due to tire pressure or chain tension adjustment etc), everything else will be inacurate.
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12-24-2009, 11:02 PM
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I still want a springer... trail changes very little with wheel travel.
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12-25-2009, 02:21 PM
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Well,as long as you dont end up with zero or negative numbers, your pretty much good to go on the trail. I use no more than six, no less than 2 as a goal. If your running zero or negative, your in trouble at speed. Ya end up with the shopping cart wobble. (Your going to die, type of ride)
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12-25-2009, 08:18 PM
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2" is what a lot of sites will claim as safe, but I feel more cozy with a 3" minimum...only because that's what has been proven in the industry. I think it was the first gen 250 Ninja that had a 3" trail, being the shortest in the industry that I could find. I don't recall exactly but it was a mass produced model. If it works for the industry, then it works for us
While this trail discussion is a beneficial one, it seems the OP is thinking everything will be alright because his trail won't be affected much and as such, it also appears that the aforementioned braking issue is getting ignored...possibly out of the belief that if trail is safe, braking will be safe?
THIS BRAKING ISSUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRAIL
Yes, even if the trail is safe and sane, the bike is still in a leaned-forward stance and that will promote easier/unintentional front wheel locks under hard braking, regardless of the trail dimension that this stance offers. It's an independant problem that needs to be addressed via balancing the rest of the bike, not the trail dimension.
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