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07-16-2010, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Going off road
The Rebel is an honest, no-frills motorcycle. Carbureted, proven engine, just adequate controls/brakes, inexpensive, little maintenance, large parts cache, re-buildable... but damn that rear wheel size.
The only dual-sport tire I know of is the Kingstone 130/90-15. It's a Chinese make and is standard on a number of Chinese dual-sport 250's that are popular with the dual-sport touring crowd who have the time and money to ride through China. I do not know how to get ahold of it and haven't had any luck trying.
I run out river roads, fire roads, dirt, gravel and other surfaces besides plain ol' street. Bikes like these have always been do-what-ever bikes. Granted it’s a little more raked than I would like but people have been slapping dual-sport/semi-knobby tires on bikes like these forever and running them where ever they like. I've seen Sportsters and the like used as scramblers with little more than a tire change. And the geometry is similar. Also, although a little more neutral geometry, witness the Triumph modern classics, REnfields, Ural etc.
That said, has anyone:
Ever raised the suspension a bit (if so how)? Found a dual-sport or knobby for the rear end? Found a larger rear wheel that drops in with little to no modification? Little longer fork?
I want a little more clearance and the ability to throw on a dedicated dual-sport wheel-set. Used wheels are super cheap and a wheel change takes little time.
Thanks for listening!
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07-18-2010, 08:27 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ozarks
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The idea is intriguing. Can't offer any help on tires anymore, just a few stories. Kind of like Ole Blevins in the Austin Lounge Lizard's song.
I had an old Ironhead Sporty that was set up for off-road. If I recall, more dirt oriented tires and wheels were available because of their flat, dirt-track use.
I also had a CB 175, a CB 350, and a CM 400. The last one was pretty much a larger Rebel.
You are correct; these were do-everything, all purpose bikes. Certainly not enough ground clearance or the suspension for anything serious but plenty good enough for old fire roads and the like. I would load that old 360 up with camping gear, going for the old "Bronson" look - and I would take off for a week or so at a time, camping off the road all the way. I would find a suitably, private spot and ride the bike right in. Usually found along gravel roads. I spent most of one summer doing this. Really the whole lifestyle thing. Every third day or so I would haul hay or work on a construction site as a laborer. Earn money for gas @ 32.9 cents a gallon and enough for some canned chili or hash for a couple of meals.
Of course, I was only 18 years old.....makes a difference.
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07-18-2010, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
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I have done very little off-roading on my Reb. When I do. I take it slow. The suspension doesn't feel stiff enough for that sort of duty to me, and I'm not sure the frame is up to it either. I took one camping trip last summer, and I plan to take a longer one later this year. I miss the days when you could pull off a road anywhere and camp.
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07-19-2010, 12:44 AM
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Location: Creston, Ohio
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The county south of me has plenty of gravel roads. The bike seemed okay doing around 30-35 mph on them, but I actually wished there wasn't any gravel becouse I thought the bike would do better on a dirt trail.
There's a couple of places that sell longer forks for the Reb. Unfortunately I don't have the link for them anymore. I thought Jack's Rebel Warehouse was one of them.
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07-19-2010, 11:08 AM
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Location: South Central PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guba
There's a couple of places that sell longer forks for the Reb. Unfortunately I don't have the link for them anymore. I thought Jack's Rebel Warehouse was one of them.
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Forking by Frank is one. The other that I am aware of is Ontario Pete who makes 2" - 8" extensions.
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07-19-2010, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rome, GA 30149
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Quote:
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I miss the days when you could pull off a road anywhere and camp.
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That would be great. I have a little camping hammock that folds into a bag that I can just hang on two trees.
That would be great for long trips and make them a lot cheaper too. haha
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07-19-2010, 01:36 PM
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When planning your trip, you can google state parks, National Forests, and private campgrounds along the route and see if and where they allow camping.
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07-19-2010, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Haha, I will not be using the spiked fork extensions by Ontario Pete off-road!  These give me ideas though.
I could find someone local to machine a couple of 2" extensions for the front and probably an extension/bracket for the rear so that I wouldn't have to buy longer shocks. I bet I could find a set of shocks at a salavage yard a few inches longer that would mount up.
A couple of inches front and rear would give a good deal more ground clearance. I'll fab a skid plate out of aluminum sheeting and then in the future I won't have to worry so much during creek crossings.
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07-19-2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vladamiraaron
Haha, I will not be using the spiked fork extensions by Ontario Pete off-road!  These give me ideas though.
I could find someone local to machine a couple of 2" extensions for the front and probably an extension/bracket for the rear so that I wouldn't have to buy longer shocks. I bet I could find a set of shocks at a salavage yard a few inches longer that would mount up.
A couple of inches front and rear would give a good deal more ground clearance. I'll fab a skid plate out of aluminum sheeting and then in the future I won't have to worry so much during creek crossings.
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Yeah, I could see spikes being a problem LOL.
If you do have some made and the machinist is willing to produce more, let us know what the cost and turn around time would be.
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07-20-2010, 01:49 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kjohnson
That would be great. I have a little camping hammock that folds into a bag that I can just hang on two trees.
That would be great for long trips and make them a lot cheaper too. haha
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I still have a "tube tent". It's a plastic tube and a string. You put the string through the tube, and tie the ends off to a couple trees or whatever. It forms a pup tent of sorts to keep two people dry in the rain, and packs smaller than a sleeping bag. Back in the day, I hitchhiked around the country, and I camped just about anywhere I found a flat place without crossing a fence. Things have changed some in the last twenty some years.
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