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Old 06-27-2012, 08:40 PM   #21
 
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A recent post on carburetors was "Time to throw in the towel?" Well, I think it is time for me to throw in quite a few towels!

The first, and probably last, semi-production version of my centerstand is complete and under testing on the bike.

It will be dismounted, dismantled, and reassembled with LocTite in case someone actually wants it !

I am still in a state of amazement and disappointment -- eleven THOUSAND owners on four sites, and only two inquiries and one person happy to see the project.


With the exception of those three, there will be no more -- no more stands, no more sets of directions, no more highway peg projects, no more engine / crash bar projects, no more saddlebag mounts, no more how-to-move-turn-signals-to-clear-bags, nothing. Honda is correct. No one out here gives a rat's south end about improving our lovable, but still 25 years obsolete bike.


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Nooooooo, I just found this thread! I would love to have a center stand that is really easy to install. I don't have a shop (and most of the know-how) so I have to rely on after market goodies. I've been slowly making improvements - have bags (really wish somebody made hard sided bags that you didn't have to move lights to install), highway bars/pegs and a windshield.
Can you please think about making the center stands again? Pretty please?
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:10 AM   #22
 
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Well, I posted a question on your other thread (Short Center Stand only pic) and never got a response.

So, I'll ask it here:


"Have a question on the fuel tank. I realize that it would need an internal pump to use while riding, but do you have to take the tank out to re-fill the main tank? Or can you use one of them handy fuel siphons?"

I am interested, but figured that since I got no response, you weren't.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:13 PM   #23
 
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Cool

My apologies. Seem to have missed an important point somewhere!

Yes, I still have one stand, partly disassembled for possible shipping
overseas (smaller box, much cheaper rate). It is not exactly jumping
out of my shop!

Yes, if it sells, and I get another order, and I still have Half Pint for
checking, or decide I no longer need to check every item, I would
build another. But I definitely will not create an inventory!

Yes, I am about 90% punted from Honda, from Rebels, and from
assorted Rebel clubs. Assuming I can successfully adapt the Ninja
to my sit-up-straight-and-save-my-back,-wrists,-and-elbows
riding position, I will convert to the dramatically greater performance
and more up to date features. I have reached my 44 years loyalty
to Honda out of 49 years riding limit with the total resistance of
Honda to making even miniscule improvements in their loveable,
but ancient antique / classic that would take so little to make a
really great bike! Three to five horsepower (the Ninja's +7 is easily
more than necessary) and ABS would do it, but HMC cannot even lengthen a dipstick so you can check oil when the bike is on the
sidestand! "Best on Earth!" NOT! "Performance First!" NOT!

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Old 06-28-2012, 06:07 PM   #24
 
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My apologies. Seem to have missed an important point somewhere!

Yes, I still have one stand, partly disassembled for possible shipping
overseas (smaller box, much cheaper rate). It is not exactly jumping
out of my shop!

Yes, if it sells, and I get another order, and I still have Half Pint for
checking, or decide I no longer need to check every item, I would
build another. But I definitely will not create an inventory!

Yes, I am about 90% punted from Honda, from Rebels, and from
assorted Rebel clubs. Assuming I can successfully adapt the Ninja
to my sit-up-straight-and-save-my-back,-wrists,-and-elbows
riding position, I will convert to the dramatically greater performance
and more up to date features. I have reached my 44 years loyalty
to Honda out of 49 years riding limit with the total resistance of
Honda to making even miniscule improvements in their loveable,
but ancient antique / classic that would take so little to make a
really great bike! Three to five horsepower (the Ninja's +7 is easily
more than necessary) and ABS would do it, but HMC cannot even lengthen a dipstick so you can check oil when the bike is on the
sidestand! "Best on Earth!" NOT! "Performance First!" NOT!

Rebelling Southwest Rebel Roadrunners - Darryl Petrak
Half Pint the Tour-Able '02 Rebel (full dress cross-country custom)
Super Half Pint the evolving Tour-Able in process Ninja 250
What's involved in installing the center stand and how much? Shipping to CA
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:23 PM   #25
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Same question, except 71201.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:10 AM   #26
 
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I think one of the reasons that the Rebel has stayed as it is, is because of price. Honda wants something for entry level riders that is cheap to purchase, operate and maintain. You start adding things like ABS and cheap and easy to maintain goes out the window.

I know how you feel, though, Darryl. I wish my Rebel had the umph that the CBR has. Riding home last night, I'm struggling at WOT to keep at 55 going uphill against a headwind and the spouse is behind me on the CBR, practically climbing up my tailpipe because I'm going too slow.

Looking at the price of the ABS vs non-ABS on the CBR, $500 is not a whole lot of money. But when you don't have a lot of money to begin with, and you want something bare bones and basic, well, that $500 is a lot.
I understand exactly what my Rebel's limits are, and I accept it for what it is. Cheap and reliable transportation.

It would be great if they built a Rebel with the CBR power plant. Would I buy one? No. I already have two Rebels. ABS? Not for me. Putting a disc brake on the back would be a far better improvement. I already have three bikes with ABS, and its a bigger PITA than its worth.

But, maybe I'm just overly defending the bike. Perhaps the reason that my dealer has three 2009's still in the crates is because they are out of date. I don't know.

Honda is making strides. Small ones, but they are headed in the right direction. The CBR was a nice place to start. The CRF230 is now going to be a 250. The NT, sadly, didn't go over well here. I liked ours so much, I bought another one.

Of all the bikes/equipment we own, the Hondas have been the most reliable. My snowthrower, gas powered weed eater, three tillers, power washer, bikes, Element, etc. I just wish they would sell a diesel powered vehicle. Going to be selling my Vibe in the next 18 months, am getting a diesel VW Jetta SportWagon, unless Honda comes out with something first. lol.

Anyways, getting back to the topic. I am interested in the stand with the fuel cell, if you have one. Spouses shop has been moved, the garden is in bloom, my garage is clean, and thankfully, I'm not working 40-50 hours a month OT anymore. I actually have time to work on bikes now. woo hooo!!!
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:13 AM   #27
 
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Centerstand -- latest info (6-29-12)

Largely, yes. To be honest, a fairly small fraction of that 11,000+
members will actually check in before any reference to said centerstand
gets wiped off the first two-three-four pages of recent posts, and thus
disappears into the dustpan of Rebel history, but with 3-4 exceptions,
not even a glimmer of interest!

For domestic USA shipping Priority mail, $75 ($35 materials + $25 my time
and effort + $15 Priority Flat Rate mail). It will be shipped completely
assembled EXCEPT the foot pedal arm, since it triples the box size! Bolts
will be in place, to be removed, threaded through the arm, and
retightened. Everything else LocTited or star-washered or both.

Installation takes about ten minutes, and requires a 7/16" wrench. It can
be done with the bike on the sidestand, no special supports. I can do it
in less, but with all the size and fit checks, I have had assorted versions
of the stand on and off Baby Wing and Half Pint probably 20 times, so I
am sort of an expert!

Since I have been stiffed by fellow Rebel Riders 3 times out of 3 sending
items before payment is received, I will not ship until payment clears my
bank!

At the moment, I have exactly one ready-to-go unit. Yes, I said "no more," but I am a softie: if I get a firm order with payment in my bank,
I will make more. But like Jack in the Box: "I/We don't make it until you
order it! " And like Jack, it will take a little longer than "ship the day you
order!"

Darryl Petrak
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Houston, TX 77044
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:36 AM   #28
 
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Primarily Ref. DeeG:

Yes, the Rebel is inexpensive and reliable. So was VW in the 60s / 70s, but VW improved it every year! To my knowledge, the only improvements to the Rebel are side covers after the 1988-1996 hiatus, 60/55w headlight bulb and bucket about 2001, and another bulb change about 2008. It darn well better be inexpensive, no new tooling costs for 27 years! But last I knew, it still cost MORE than the CBR, with new frame, wheels, brakes (plain and ABS), engine, trans, bodywork, instruments -- almost everything except the nameplate! This does not compute!

The $500 for ABS is OPTIONAL. If Honda decided to scoop the cycle world and make them standard, it would cost about $50-100 -- notice that air bags cost hundreds to thousands as parts, and added nothing noticeable when put on every vehicle! And I am an ABS booster because I spent six weeks repairing a shoulder from a 10mph crash (8 INCH skid mark -- I have NEVER been down so fast!), and thirteen weeks twice repairing broken bones from crashes that might well have been prevented if I had not been afraid to lay into brakes a bit harder! If I had known I was going to crash anyway, I would have at least tried!

Honda (and the entire industry, actually) is now captive to the racing crowd. If it is not go fast on either dirt or paving, they just do not care!
If it is not BIG and EXPENSIVE, they just do not care! They do not even make suitable accessories for us, like sit-up-straight windshields, bars, footpeg locations, and accessories have GREAT MARKUPS! Sport bike not like your Bad back, tough! Wrist problems, ditto! Elbow problems (mine do not like the compressive load of leaning on them -- designed for tension loads) -- ditto! Frog legs get stiff? Too bad! Who cares?

I guess that is going overboard, but it is ten years of frustration boiling over. Sorry.

Center stand info in previous post.

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Old 06-29-2012, 11:45 AM   #29
 
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Center Stand / jack stand / Fuel Tank / Cell available

OOPS! Did not have DeeG's reply where I could read it and missed the interest in the part about the tank.

The Fuel Tank was rather expensive -- $25 material, and $150 welding. Since there was even less interest there than the stand, and I will have no use for it after Super Half Pint is fully upgraded to Concours 250, how does $250 for the complete center stand, jack stand, fuel tank sound?
PostPaid, Priority Flat Rate, two packages, with the wrench used for
easy-in-easy-out (about 5 minutes each way, full or empty) fuel tank.

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Old 06-29-2012, 11:53 AM   #30
 
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Nooooooo, I just found this thread! I would love to have a center stand that is really easy to install. I don't have a shop (and most of the know-how) so I have to rely on after market goodies. I've been slowly making improvements - have bags (really wish somebody made hard sided bags that you didn't have to move lights to install), highway bars/pegs and a windshield.
Can you please think about making the center stands again? Pretty please?

See preceding posts to this one. No need for a shop. No need for very much know-how. If you can thread a nut onto a U-bolt, you can mount this unit. (A third hand is sometimes handy, but not necessary.) It can even be mounted on a hot cycle if you are careful around the exhaust!

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