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post #1 of 17 Old 01-19-2017, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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Will the Rebel 300 be enough for me?

I currently have a Ninja 250R. I love the style of the new rebel and want to stay with a small bike. While I am ok with the top speed of the ninja I do not like its power from like 55-80mph. It just doesn't have the power to really accelerate much at this speed.
I know no one has the 2017 rebel yet, but it has the same engine as the cbr300r just tuned for more low end torque. How would these do 55-80mph, I just would like a little more power there than the ninja. With the ninja im in top gear by 50mph and accellerating past there is rather slow. Hoping the fuel injection and slightly bigger engine would make a difference in this are.
I would prefer to get the 300 since it is $1600 less and a bit lighter. And everything else is the same between the 300 and 500 besides the engine.
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Welcome to forum n enjoy your ride. I think with fuel injection and extra 50cc it will be a better bike and much more torque



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i think the additional 50cc will help it out, but I wouldn't expect it to be power house.

according to 2017 Honda Rebel 300 / Rebel 500 | motorcycle review @ Top Speed the new 300 puts out almost twice the HP as the traditional rebel 250 and has a sixth gear.


"A six-speed gearbox keeps the RPM in the usable range for both models, and unsurprisingly, we have a standard clutch with no slipper or hydraulic-assist in evidence. As usual, Honda is keeping its cards close to the vest, but if you’ll reference the graphs you’ll see that the engines are close in power delivery to the CBR-R models of similar displacement. The CBR300R puts out 30 horsepower and 20 pounds of grunt, and the CBR500R cranks out 46.9 horses and 31 pounds of torque, so you can consider the Rebels to be plenty strong enough for a pocket cruiser."

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From what I saw, the Rebel 300 has about 2 ft-lbs more of torque compared to your Ninja 250...i.e., more, but not much more. It also has more horsepower than your Ninja 250, but I don't recall how much more. If you're looking for a change in style, no problem, but if you're looking for a more noticeable power increase (passing power at highway+ speeds), the 500 is what you want, no question about it.

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From what I saw, the Rebel 300 has about 2 ft-lbs more of torque compared to your Ninja 250...i.e., more, but not much more. It also has more horsepower than your Ninja 250, but I don't recall how much more. If you're looking for a change in style, no problem, but if you're looking for a more noticeable power increase (passing power at highway+ speeds), the 500 is what you want, no question about it.

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Well the cbr300 has 5 more ft-lbs of torque than the ninja 250, so I don't see how it is possible for the rebel which is more tuned for torque to have only 2lbs.
But with horse power being almost equal I guess I have to look more into the 500. I wish it wasn't a 1600 dollar price jump.
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Well the cbr300 has 5 more ft-lbs of torque than the ninja 250, so I don't see how it is possible for the rebel which is more tuned for torque to have only 2lbs.
But with horse power being almost equal I guess I have to look more into the 500. I wish it wasn't a 1600 dollar price jump.
Your data may be better than what I saw. The basic question is do you really want to spend 1,000's of $$ for 50 more cc's? It may be enough for what you're looking for, but the only way to know for sure is to test-ride one. With spring coming, there should be plenty of opportunities to do so. If you do a test-ride, please let us know what you think...

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I had a 2007 Ninja 250 (last year of the original style) It had plenty of power, and by going up one tooth on the front sprocket (that model Ninja 250 was undergeared) it was an excellent highway cruiser. I had to give it up because of the painful riding position. The bars were too low, and the pegs too high and too far back. I was in serious pain after 20 miles. I find cruisers to be far more comfortable. I think the new 300 (which I refuse to call a Rebel) should have pretty much the same performance as the CB300F. I have always found cruisers the most comfortable style of bike made, but the new 300 looks like it could use some help in the seat department. I don't know what year your Ninja 250 is, but IMO, the '07 was the last year that actually had a seat. The '08 and up just had a small hard pad. If you like technology and it's looks, you might love Honda's new bike.
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I had a CBR250R for a few years; noticeably more power than my Rebel 250. Loved the bike but ended up trading it in for an ABS upgrade. Had thought back then about that engine being nice in a Rebel, it had more similar characteristics than I expected, but of course it was in a sport bike form factor.

My CBR250R was quite comfortable on high speed freeways to me, but if the Ninja 250R wasn't making you happy, I doubt you will agree and I suspect you won't be happy with the Rebel 300 either.

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