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06-28-2010, 02:09 AM
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Rebel Flag?
What do you think of the Rebel Flag?
What do you think it stands for?
Is it a sign of hate?
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06-28-2010, 07:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Roanoke, Va.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan
What do you think of the Rebel Flag?
What do you think it stands for?
Is it a sign of hate?
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Its a flag.
It stands for the confederate states
No, its a sign of the confederate states. Its history.
I think its misused by both sides of the fence.
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06-28-2010, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I have a full sized Confederate flag hanging on my bedroom wall. While I was born in AZ, my parents, grandparents, great grandparents, all the way back before the civil war were from the south. I lost several family members in the civil war, on the Confederate side. I have nothing but respect for Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and pretty much all the leaders and soldiers on the Confederate side.
Only recently has the Confederate flag been twisted into a symbol of hate and racism. That is not what it was to begin with, and for a long time after the civil war. It is NOT what it means to me. IMO, a few racist haters are trying to destroy southern culture, and unfortunately they seem to succeeding. Jerry.
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06-28-2010, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Massachusetts
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Jerry,no disrespect intended but I don't think their destroying southern culture, I think their destroying American culture.like you, I respect the Confederate Army. The Confederate Flag is rich in History. Isn't it ashame that this isn't taught in history classes.
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06-28-2010, 11:59 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
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To some people, the confederacy will always be synonymous with slavery. I have been living in Texas for about twenty years, so I know that it's not nearly that simple, but symbols associated with a war have a way of polarizing people. I see Rebel flags very rarely, and I don't read that much into it when I do.
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06-29-2010, 12:40 AM
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Join Date: May 2010
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The main reason i posted this is cause my dad wont let me get a rebel flag tat, and what sucks even more my sis is also aginst it. dam yankes They are saying that it is a sign of racisim
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06-29-2010, 12:55 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan
The main reason i posted this is cause my dad wont let me get a rebel flag tat, and what sucks even more my sis is also aginst it. dam yankes They are saying that it is a sign of racisim
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Whether you see it as one or not, many people do. Tats are permanent. Tats of any kind can limit employment possibilities, and dating opportunities. Do you wear Rebel flags on your clothes? What kind of reaction do you get from people when you do?
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06-29-2010, 02:47 AM
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Location: Monroe, LA
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Nathan, I don't know your dad, but I think I understand why he doesn't want you to get the flag tatoo. As Fridg said, the flag means different things to different people, and so do tatoos. Some folks like them, some don't care one way or another, and others dislike them.
How often do you see a person whose job involves dealing with the public sporting a visible tatoo? (The folks in the tatoo shop don't count!) Not very often, right? Because the public is free to draw any opinion, good or bad, it wishes about a person with a tatoo, the folks who do the hiring know this and tend to reject applicants with tatoos. So folks who get tatoos in locations where they will be visible to others are limiting their job opportunities whether they realize it or not. Getting a tat of a Confederate flag is going to communicate to others what they choose it to mean, regardless of what it means to you.
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06-29-2010, 09:25 AM
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Location: South Central PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flitecontrol
How often do you see a person whose job involves dealing with the public sporting a visible tatoo? (The folks in the tatoo shop don't count!) Not very often, right?
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I will say that times are changing. For some.
You see more people in the food service or other low wage jobs that show tattoos, some even questioable in taste.
What will be much more difficult is finding a career job with a good salary if you have questioable tattoos (that show).
I have a LOT of tattoos. Most of which I did myself while in the military (I also used to do tattoos for others). This was during a rebelious stage in my life tht was influenced by a lot of outside factors, few being of sound mind. I had a lot of grief because of them. I had to wear my uniform sleeves down all the time even when it was 100°. I did not get the sme respect others did. I had a really hard time getting promoted. It's now difficult to convince people that I am not a thug...
So, just be aware of the permanent impact that a decision like that can make. From my perspective, just don't. It ain't worth it.
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06-29-2010, 10:45 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I have 3 tattoos on my arms. One is a peace sign (yes, I'm an old hippie), one is a picture of a bulldogs head, with a spiked collar, with the words "Junkyard Dog" written around it, the other simply says "We the People". One is my nickname/part of my identity, and the other 2 are things I strongly believe in. But being a mechanic, I work in an area where tattoos aren't a problem. Of course if I showed up with a swastika tattoo, I think my boss and coworkers would have a problem with that. I still would not get a Confederate flag tattoo, not that I would have a problem with it, but because someone else might. That's why I have my Confederate flag hanging on my bedroom wall, rather than hanging up outside. On the other hand, I do not own a U.S. flag, and have never displayed one. If "We the People" ever comes back, then maybe I will. Jerry.
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