hello newbie to a rebel starting tuesday

[@migo]

Hi there everyone, I will be buying a new 2006 cmx 250 tuesday, I am counting the minutes. I have had several dirt and enduro bikes.
My question at this point is should I ask for the honda service manual of my rebel? does it come with a new purchase?
and do you guys think they will deliver for free I dont have nobody that can drive me to the dealership.
what about the breaking in a new bike what should I do to break it in good?
when is the first service?
do the dealers give you a free service?
whats the oil and tire presure to use, as well as what type of gasoline, regular premium or silver?
do I have to turn the fuel selector to off everytime I park it? or leave it in on?
does it have a helmet lock and where is it?
how do I lock the forks?

thanks and Ill keep you inform . :D

[jsonder]

Hi there everyone, I will be buying a new 2006 cmx 250 tuesday, I am counting the minutes. I have had several dirt and enduro bikes.
My question at this point is should I ask for the honda service manual of my rebel? does it come with a new purchase?
and do you guys think they will deliver for free I dont have nobody that can drive me to the dealership.
what about the breaking in a new bike what should I do to break it in good?
when is the first service?
do the dealers give you a free service?
whats the oil and tire presure to use, as well as what type of gasoline, regular premium or silver?
do I have to turn the fuel selector to off everytime I park it? or leave it in on?
does it have a helmet lock and where is it?
how do I lock the forks?

thanks and Ill keep you inform . :D

@migo: The questions seem a tad strange for someone with several prior bikes. I'll try to go deep enough:

Regular gas (low compression engine).
Try for the 1996-2006 Service Manual for CMX250C; the worst they can do is say no. I had to get after the fact owners and service manuals for a used bike.

My wife got her new Rebel delivered. I suspect that they had already gotten their money/plastic before the delivery. The delivery was about 60 miles round trip from the dealers.

Yes turn the darn gas off (petcock lever horizontal) when you park it.

Helmet lock on left side. Lets your helmet dangle against the hot muffler. Not good for plastics.....

First service at 600 miles. Basically an oil change, chain lube, valve adjustment, and check for loose stuff.

Break in is "truely personal bias". Personally, I'd want an oil change at 75 miles and a 2nd at 500-600 miles. Don't run the bike over 50-60% of the red line in each gear (the ticks at the end of the gear lines on the speedo are the red-line values). Vary the engine speeds and let the bike slow down against the engine compression to seat the rings under deceleration as well as acceleration.

Fork lock on right hand side. I/2 rev key rotation needed.

[@migo]

thanks a lot jsonder :D , was your wifes bike a free delivery, what about the breaking in part can I hit a 55-60 mph highway?

did you say use the regular gasoline ? you do mean the cheapest one correct?

what about the oil wich one to use for a new bike.

thanks in advance :)

[Thumper]

I would have liked free delivery of my bike, but I had to pay $80 to get it home (was not ready to ride in traffic, nope...) Some dealers do free delivery, some don't.

I didn't get a service manual, but I did get an owner's manual. If they don't hand it to you upon payment, ask. It's probably in a file cabinet somewhere and they'll give it to you.

Service is not free. Most dealers will offer you a "club package," for a whole bunch of money you get unlimited service on your bike; sometimes the 600 mile service is free, but most often you're gonna pay $100-200 for it. I suppose this is why alot of bikers learn to do their own servicing...

You don't HAVE to turn the petcock off every time, but it's a good habit to get into, just in case you wind up leaving the bike sitting there unridden for a long time.

And you lock the forks with your key... there's a keyhole on the right side; you just turn the front wheel to the left, stick the key in, and lock.

When you but the bike, someone from sales or service will "deliver" the bike; in dealership terms that's just showing you things on the bike and how they work, and how to break it in should be explained (this is different from delivering the bike to your home, obviously...) I got a very thorough delivery on my bike, since the sales guy knew I was a new rider, and he wanted to share some tips with me.

[@migo]

thanks alot Thumper for your story.
I think I might take the bus, if I can find one on that day to the dealership . Paying for delivery is not what I need now :wink:

[jsonder]

Yes she got free delivery. If you look this cute you may too :o

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Regular = 87 octane at sea level, = 85.5 octane above 4000? feet; I can never remember the elevation cut off.

Not knowing anything about the rubber/plastic in the system, I would avoid the 15% ethynol gas.

[MattD]

jsonder said:Helmet lock on left side. Lets your helmet dangle against the hot muffler. Not good for plastics.....
Same thing happened to me, never have figured out a good way to hang a helmet there :lol: ......
Yes, I would avoid gas with added ethanol, parts of the petcock in the tank itself are plastic. I run the cheap stuff, gasoline that is, and have never heard the first spark knock. The only fuel additives I've used are Heet and Seafoam. Both are excellent, neither hurts the plastic parts.

[Thumper]

Same thing happened to me, never have figured out a good way to hang a helmet there :lol: ......
Drop the passenger foot peg...if you hang it just right, the side of your helmet rests on the peg, and stays off the pipe.

You don't wanna know how many minutes I stood in the BX parking lot figuring that out...

[GearJammer]

My '85 250 had gravity feed petcocks. If the newer 250's still have the gravity feed petcocks (as opposed to vacuum actuated, where the fuel is only supposed to flow when the bike is actually running) it'd be wise to get into the habit of turning off the petcock at every stop. If not, there's a possiblity of gasoline filling the carb while the bike is not running & then finding it's way into the crankcase & that's not a pleasant experience.....ask me how I know, LMAO!

[jsonder]

Drop the passenger foot peg...if you hang it just right, the side of your helmet rests on the peg, and stays off the pipe.


We've got enough wind (I won't even mention kids going by the bike) around here to where I just plain didn't feel comfy doing that.

Hence, I carry this "white purse" around alot.

___
John
Nekid bikes feel faster

PS With gloves and sunglasses in a 3/4 helmet, it does function as a ....

[MattD]

I usually wear my helmet when I go into Wal-Mart. If I'm carrying it, the greeter at the front door wants to put one of those green stickies on it. :lol:

[@migo]

Hello there finaly my day has come...
I am a super happy mod@fuk@...

I got my new 06 rebel today . It is exactly so far and a little bit more than I expected it to be.
I am breaking it in a little bit diffrent hopefully I wont go wrong. I am pushing that baby pretty much like if I would have own it all my life.

Had to drive it from the dealer with 55 mph speed limit and had to take it later this afternoon to the pike. after I had a good 6 hour nap I headed back on it.

65 mph so far no problem, i had to slow after that to get in the exit.
gasoline so far I can still see it in my gas tank .
tomorow another day hopefully no rain today was perfect I love sunsets.

tomorow I will combine business and pleasure in my trip that is aprox 45 miles from home.

I am thinking of taking this baby out right now at 23:45 hahahah maybe I will.

good luck to all

[GearJammer]

Congrats on your new Rebel! I've always followed recommended break-in procedures for new bikes (when I used to be able to afford 'em, LMAO!) & after rebuilds on the older bikes I ride. But there may be some validity in what you're doing......"I am pushing that baby pretty much like if I would have own it all my life."......again, even tho' I haven't tried that type of break-in, there are some who swear by just riding the dogsnot out of a bike, new or rebuilt.

Ride Safe.......

[@migo]

yes indeeed hopefully I wont go wrong on it, i AM pushing it more and more today I took her on the turnpike again to 70 mph for like 20 miles and I gave her another 80 miles of hills and turns been compresing the engine (engine breaking a lot) havent used the brakes to much.
Is it ok to use the gasoline thats got more octanes( the expensive one)

how often to check the engine oil or how often to put more oil?
what about transmition oil do I need to put some , somewhere?

seeya later. :D

[GearJammer]

I always use the highest octane available, but many use the lowest octane with no problem, so it's really your choice. Way I figure it, for the price of gas for a bike, I'll stick with the good stuff...hehehe.....

The manual may recommend changing the oil after the 1st 600 miles ? Then every 3000-4000 miles thereafter, tho' more frequent oil changes are good for the motor. Also, if your shifting feels funky before the recommended oil changes, an oil change usually makes the shifting "right" again.

You could check the oil once a week just as a matter of routine, but these Rebs don't really burn oil from what I've seen, even my old '85 250. Add oil if necessary, but you probably won't have to.

Crankcase, tranny & clutch all share the same oil. No fuss, no muss, LOL!

[@migo]

I always use the highest octane available, but many use the lowest octane with no problem, so it's really your choice. Way I figure it, for the price of gas for a bike, I'll stick with the good stuff...hehehe.....

The manual may recommend changing the oil after the 1st 600 miles ? Then every 3000-4000 miles thereafter, tho' more frequent oil changes are good for the motor. Also, if your shifting feels funky before the recommended oil changes, an oil change usually makes the shifting "right" again.

You could check the oil once a week just as a matter of routine, but these Rebs don't really burn oil from what I've seen, even my old '85 250. Add oil if necessary, but you probably won't have to.

Crankcase, tranny & clutch all share the same oil. No fuss, no muss, LOL!

I think more octane might make my new engine more developed dont know what word to use but I mean like more tuned or revolutionated... something like that so yea I am stiking with more octanes.
thanks alot for the info broda!!!! :D

[GearJammer]

Ubetcha! :wink:

[glw]

Engines with higher compression need higher octane. Higher octane is not better or more powerful gas. It is gas that burns slower so that the high compression engine does not ping or blow up. So you are paying more for gas that doesn't explode so fast. No point in using anything other than regular unless you are driving a sports car. When I have used a higher octane in my Rebel I have found that my top speed is less.

[@migo]

Engines with higher compression need higher octane. Higher octane is not better or more powerful gas. It is gas that burns slower so that the high compression engine does not ping or blow up. So you are paying more for gas that doesn't explode so fast. No point in using anything other than regular unless you are driving a sports car. When I have used a higher octane in my Rebel I have found that my top speed is less.

very intresting, will have to try everything, as long as its not something that hurts my bike I will try it.
thanks for your info!! :D