Honda 250 mod [Archive] - Honda Rebel Motorcycle Forum

Are (yes it is my name!)

12-18-2005, 01:37 PM

Yeah, that was cool 8) . But i think it would have looked better with a spring solo seat

This is why I like the rebel so much. It takes so little to make it into a wery cool custom.

GearJammer

12-18-2005, 01:41 PM

"This is why I like the rebel so much. It takes so little to make it into a wery cool custom."

Agreed. Low-budget, fun & very cool when finished. :wink:

Chopper Rick

12-18-2005, 03:40 PM

Yeah, that was cool 8) . But i think it would have looked better with a spring solo seat

This is why I like the rebel so much. It takes so little to make it into a wery cool custom.

I agree with you, it needs a spring solo seat. Also i would have gone with a different color on the bike. I did contact the builder about the bike & he did get back to me but he seem to be very reluctant to give out to much specifics on the bike. He even said that i can contact him anytime if i have more questions about the bike, so i took him up on that offer & never heard back from him again. So much for the invite.

Chopper Rick

12-18-2005, 03:47 PM

"This is why I like the rebel so much. It takes so little to make it into a wery cool custom."

Agreed. Low-budget, fun & very cool when finished. :wink:

I agreed. Used Rebels can still be found for very little money if you don't mind getting your hands dirty. And like you said, when finish takes very little to look cool.

GearJammer

12-18-2005, 08:03 PM

The one point I'd make is the color green...traditionally known for "bad luck". Some builders paint 'em green to defy the odds, LMAO! (Serious tho')

Chopper Rick

12-20-2005, 11:38 PM

Here's a 85 Rebel 250 with modifications.

http://storage.msn.com/x1pnp_rgmi5o530zy5fR-ZEdrKebmvjCk46f3BvkADhVdDPeb5HFt5hwqhReXDJPwp27ez7 c9OwhLbUNFYuFZwzH18yb66ZdXQWWlw_mCDxGUWc18wLifJX2Y IdOfHO7QI3

GearJammer

12-21-2005, 01:22 AM

Lookin' GOOD! Really dig the color & that tank & rider's seat go well with the rest of the bike.

Couple questions...

What kind of tank is that ?
And for you painters...would the tank, fender & lower fork sliders be painted & the valve covers, side cover & throttle cover on carb be anodized ?

Chopper Rick

12-21-2005, 01:37 AM

Gearjammer, i don't know the answer to your painting question, i'm still using the rattle can for my paint jobs. The gas tank is a Stretched Sportbob Tank.

GearJammer

12-21-2005, 01:48 AM

Thanx for the info on the fuel cell, Chopper Rick...

Rattle can ? I use a different technique called spray-bombing, LOL! Looks like you & me both are rattle can type-o guys :wink:

But I know someone that knows their paint.....hehehe....when he isn't riding, hunting or designing websites.... :wink:

Chopper Rick

12-21-2005, 02:22 AM

If you find out anything on the painting issue let me know.

Thanks

GearJammer

12-21-2005, 12:56 PM

Actually, CTC is an excellent painter. That's who I meant in a teasing way in the previous post :wink:

Am also guessing that the lower fork sliders could possibly be either painted or anodized. Just not sure about the parts near the higher temps, such as on & around the engine.

cTc

12-21-2005, 01:40 PM

HA -- -- Been doing all of the about :D

Not a big fan of painting anything on the motor, anodizing is ok, if you like it, personally I dont.

I had much rather bead blast the case then polish the fins, this really help get more cool air. the rough finish catches more moving air.

I'm thinking of buying another rebel to play with. I have one that was in the works, but found out the motor is shot and the frame somehow is 1/2" out. and the is no visible signs of damage to the frame. That explains the previous owners problems.

The ol spray bomb technique is not to bad, a little patients, and dont forget to soak the cans in warn watter for 5 or 10 minutes before using to make sure you get a good mix inside the can.

I seen (and done) some nice rattle can work. prep and technique is where its at.

Later

GearJammer

12-21-2005, 03:39 PM

Cool! Thanx very much, CTC & glad to hear that you've been keeping busy in ways that help to keep this winter more bearable :wink:

I like the anodized colors, but also agree with ya about not wanting to create excess heat build-up on the motor. Chroming various parts may look great, but can also contribute to unwanted higher temps. Your technique of bead-blasting & polishing is definitely more practical.

Considering another 250 Rebel project, eh ? Very cool! If I had more space & didn't have to think about those chintzey exhaust flange studs (LMAO! Old story :wink: ) I'd probably consider another one as well.

Excellent tip on soaking the spray can in water for 5-10 mins.! Thanx for sharing that...Excellent!

Are (yes it is my name!)

12-21-2005, 05:35 PM

Here's a 85 Rebel 250 with modifications.

http://storage.msn.com/x1pnp_rgmi5o530zy5fR-ZEdrKebmvjCk46f3BvkADhVdDPeb5HFt5hwqhReXDJPwp27ez7 c9OwhLbUNFYuFZwzH18yb66ZdXQWWlw_mCDxGUWc18wLifJX2Y IdOfHO7QI3

I like this bike...... but the streach'd tank show's all the electric wires....Other than that its a good looking bike :D

If i remember right its a Lady who rides this bike......i think she goes by the name Rebel Gurl on the "surfmaine" forum (it's maybe not called surfmaine anymore?)

Chopper Rick

12-21-2005, 06:55 PM

"If i remember right its a Lady who rides this bike......i think she goes by the name Rebel Gurl on the "surfmaine" forum (it's maybe not called surfmaine anymore?)"

Yes you are correct the owner of the bike does go by the user name Rebel Gurl. I forgot to give her credit & post her website were the picture could be found. So here it is.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/halliwellsgarage/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c=

GearJammer

12-21-2005, 08:38 PM

Pretty cool personal website. That 450 Rebel is immaculate!

Are (yes it is my name!)

12-25-2005, 07:05 PM

http://www.rebelclub.org.uk/images/Non%20Members%20bikes/b9_12_sb.jpg

I like this one better than the green "rat trapp" ......It does not have a spring seat either but it looks like one, and i think the ape's go wery well with the tank and the rest of the bike 8)

Iv'e got no idea who the owner is. Got the pic from the UK rebelclub site.

Are

Chopper Rick

12-25-2005, 08:18 PM

Now that's a nice looking Rebel. It looks pretty close to the one i'm working on except mine as a springer seat, drag bar & no shocks.

GearJammer

12-25-2005, 10:58 PM

Very tastefully done! The lines all flow well, making it pleasing to the eye. Lots of good points, especially like the bobbed rear fender & the way they welded the straight extensions to the headers.

Chopper Rick

01-02-2006, 12:35 PM

Here's another Honda 250 Custom Mod i found on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Rebel-Rebel-Custom-Bobber-Custom-Honda-Rebel-250-Bobber-Chopper-Complete-Rebuild_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50007QQitemZ460 1417910QQrdZ1

GearJammer

01-02-2006, 12:45 PM

Pretty cool! Like the blacked-out items & the radically bobbed rear fender. Reminds me a bit of a blue Rebel that CTC had acquired some time ago.

cTc

01-02-2006, 12:48 PM

GearJammer

01-02-2006, 01:07 PM

Agreed. The stock ones definitely seem to go for more $$$. Certainly no shortage of 250's out there to choose from. Even tho' the 450's are harder to find, with the dwindling spare parts for those, I'd be more inclined to hold out for something that runs well, but personally wouldn't pay more than a $1000 there, either (tho' the clean ones are legitimately worth more than that, would be content to hold out for a bargain :wink: )

Chopper Rick

01-02-2006, 01:32 PM

I'm just curious here Gearjammer but would you happen to know if a rear fender off of a 250 Rebel would fit onto a 450 Rebel?

Chopper Rick

01-02-2006, 01:43 PM

Kinda over did the fender

It is similar to my project bike. I am interested to see the final price. I'd be surprised to see it over $1K, but you never know, there just is not a big market for custom rebels. or at least not for extreme custom rebels.

I agree on the fender it's not the way i would have gone. I also would have gotten rid of that big seat & gone with a springer seat & maybe an Ape or Z handlebars.

Are (yes it is my name!)

01-02-2006, 01:53 PM

I agree. It looks wierd with the big seat.
Maybe if the fender was closer to the tire.....

Chopper Rick

01-02-2006, 02:04 PM

I agree. It looks wierd with the big seat.
Maybe if the fender was closer to the tire.....

Or if your not going to go with a springer seat than at less he should have gone with a smaller seat. But in my opinion i feel with the rear fender cut that short that a springer seat would have looked much better & flow better with the lines of the bike.

GearJammer

01-02-2006, 11:30 PM

Even tho' I like the bobbed rear fender, as CTC pointed out, it's a "roostertail" waiting to happen. If caught riding in the rain, the water would be tossed up & soak the rider's back big time. I don't run any front fenders & get the blast full-face from the front & it ain't fun, LOL!

Chopper Rick, Wish I still had the 250 to compare a lot of different fits. Both the 250 & 450 run 15" rear wheels, so the radius of the fenders would be right, but I'd guess the width might be different.

Ideally, when choosing a fender, the radius of the fender wants to be the same radius as the tire/wheel to keep the lines looking right. BUT, if you were using a diferent fender & bobbing it, depending on the amount that had been removed, the radius might not be as critical. Then, it simply becomes a matter of mountability, width, etc.

On a side note: If you're ever looking for flat fenders, a cheap source would be a trailer supply yard. They stock flat fenders in different sizes & radius' for about $16 (last time I checked)

Chopper Rick

01-03-2006, 03:35 PM

"Chopper Rick, Wish I still had the 250 to compare a lot of different fits. Both the 250 & 450 run 15" rear wheels, so the radius of the fenders would be right, but I'd guess the width might be different."

Thanks Gearjammer. I did talk to Jack from Jack's Rebel Warehouse
& he told me that the 250 rear fender is not interchangeable with the 450. He also said the only items he as ever seen that you can use between the two bikes is the rear turn signals & stems & the handlebars.

cTc

01-03-2006, 03:40 PM

"trailer" fenders look nice on the rebels. Unless you are looking to keep the bobbed style.

GearJammer

01-04-2006, 12:59 PM

Yep, I'm normally a flat fender kinda guy, but have stuck with the stock rear fender on this Rebel & just lowered the shocks.

Chopper Rick, Can see where the 250 rear fender width & mounting holes would be different. Pretty much a downscaled version from the 450.

Chopper Rick

02-23-2006, 03:08 PM

Here's some more mods, curiosity of the Rebelrousers Homepage.

http://rebelriders.20m.com/photo2.html

Are (yes it is my name!)

02-23-2006, 03:19 PM

Nice site! :D The captain-america bike is a 125 actually. They sell a kit for it. It might fit 250's too.

http://www.chopper-kit-usa.com/honda-VT125.htm

Chopper Rick

02-24-2006, 02:53 PM

Hey Are, thanks for providing the chopper kit website. The kit is a bit pricey.

Chopper Rick

03-06-2006, 02:02 AM

Here's another Rebel mod.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Rebel-CMX-450-1986-450-REBEL-RIGID-CHOPPER-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50007QQitemZ461 8179072QQrdZ1

GearJammer

03-06-2006, 12:03 PM

That one looks pretty decent & looks like it was well cared for. I used the shocks from a 250cc Rebel to slam the rear-end (that just sounds "wrong", ROTFLMAO!) but have considered solid struts like on this one or the red & black one to avoid bottoming out if carrying a passenger.

If I get a chance later, will try to post the eBay link to the clean stock Rebel, black one that was recently listed. There's this huge dent on the top/rear of the gas tank right in front of the rider's seat. I had a similar dent in the EXACT same location. What's up with that & wondering how these dents could happen there ?

Edit: Hope this works...http://cgi.ebay.com/Honda-Rebel-Honda-Rebel-450-Honda-Rebel-450_W0QQitemZ4619190142QQcategoryZ50007QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Edit Edit, LOL! Friggin' computers! Tried typing it in twice, it's not working, I going to inhale some coffee! LMAO!

Chopper Rick

03-09-2006, 05:06 PM

Here's a mod that's pretty simple to do if your thinking about changing the gas tank on your honda 450. Go out & find a 1982 CX500 custom (not the standard) gas tank. Than on your old 450 tank remove the front mounts & weld them onto the new tank & than tap a new hold in the frame for the rear bolt & there you have it. The great thing about this mod is that there are plenty of CX500 custom tanks out there for the picking.

brooksallenc

04-15-2006, 06:00 PM

Ya man that bike was awsome :D

Are (yes it is my name!)

04-18-2006, 04:43 PM

http://www.surfmaine.com/rebel/rebelpix/laras-rebel/laras-86-250.jpg

A picture says more than a thousand words.

Any chance it's lowerd in the rear? Looks like it...

GearJammer

04-18-2006, 08:28 PM

That's a very cool looking Rebel! Honestly can't tell if it's been lowered or not. Aren't the stock 250 Rebel shocks the shortest available on the market (at least for current shocks) ?

Which brings up a question: I'm used to hardtails & hadn't run shocks until owning the Rebs. Is it possible to cut the springs on the stock shocks & re-install them or is that not an option ? (Just wondering if this Reb could have been lowered that way or not)

Chopper Rick

04-18-2006, 09:31 PM

Gearjammer wrote..."Is it possible to cut the springs on the stock shocks & re-install them or is that not an option ?"

GJ, i know someone who actually sent his reb shocks to a guy who shorten them for him & they looked just like they came from the factory that way.

Chopper Rick

GearJammer

04-19-2006, 01:52 AM

Thanx, Chopper Rick.....I know some guys have cut the springs inside the fork tubes to lower front forks, but am wondering if this could be safely applied to shock springs or not.

Isn't there also a technique for changing a spring's coil length by heating the spring with a torch while compressing it (putting it under load) ? Guess that might be one way & then just rechrome the spring afterwards ? Now I'm wondering about how they do this stuff, LMAO!!!!

Chopper Rick

04-19-2006, 02:12 AM

Gearjammer wrote..."Isn't there also a technique for changing a spring's coil length by heating the spring with a torch while compressing it (putting it under load) ? Guess that might be one way & then just rechrome the spring afterwards ? Now I'm wondering about how they do this stuff, LMAO!!!!"

Yep, that's another method they use. But if you go that route you better be a pretty good welder, you wouldn't want the welds to break on you when your on the road.

Chopper Rick